Re:The bizarre role reversal of Apple and Microsoft
by TelmoMenezes on Friday October 28, 2016 @04:20PM
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"Hacker" as in "Hacker News" is from an even more distant past. The word just got appropriately decaffeinated, so as to be acceptable within our current iteration of group think.
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Re:The bizarre role reversal of Apple and Microsoft
by greenshackle2 on Friday October 28, 2016 @04:28PM
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I tried going to a 'hacker' meetup in my city. It was disappointing.
I was asking people if they were programmers, the median reaction was "a programmer? oh lord no, I'm a [marketing/UI/non-technical] person".
It seems the term was coopted and gutted by some in the startup scene.
(I'm aware there are legitimate hackers in the startup scene, this was just one particular event in one particular city.)
Re:The bizarre role reversal of Apple and Microsoft
by mancerayder on Friday October 28, 2016 @04:36PM
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In my city there's 'growth hacking' meetups. It's too nakedly marketingistic to even consider seriously. I fear in the English language the word 'hack' is often being used as a synonym for 'shortcut'. The Lifehacker 'hacks' being prime examples.
Re:The bizarre role reversal of Apple and Microsoft
by greenshackle2 on Friday October 28, 2016 @04:49PM
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This one was advertised as for developers/coders/engineers/designers, but I'm in a second-tier (for developers) Canadian city.
Many talented tech folks move to first-tier Canadian cities, or to first tier U.S. cities, which are zeroth tier by Canadian standards, if they aren't tied down.
Re:The bizarre role reversal of Apple and Microsoft
by rbanffy on Friday October 28, 2016 @05:31PM
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> I'm a [marketing/UI/non-technical] person".
They are obviously confusing a hack with a hacker.
/me ducks
Re:The bizarre role reversal of Apple and Microsoft
by sliverstorm on Friday October 28, 2016 @06:34PM
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Even if it wasn't non-technical people, it seems the pop culture of "hacker" attracts all the worst stereotypes of geeks. The really sharp ones don't seem interested in self-identifying as "hacker".
Re:The bizarre role reversal of Apple and Microsoft
by oldmanjay on Friday October 28, 2016 @04:26PM
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Is the groupthink in this case laughing at the anachronistic usage of M$?
Re:The bizarre role reversal of Apple and Microsoft
by TelmoMenezes on Friday October 28, 2016 @05:11PM
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No. The groupthink is what causes the usage of M$ to be anachronistic now, and also what made it fashionable at some point in the past. Treating subjective opinions as objective facts and laughing at members of the out-group are symptoms of being engaged in groupthink.
Nothing wrong (or right) with any of that. I'm just observing.