Apple just told the world it has no idea who the Mac is for

Re:Apple just told the world it has no idea who the Mac is for by eeeeeeeeeeeee on Friday October 28, 2016 @03:54PM (#12820033)

Wow, can you let me know which Surface book and Linux distro? I like the look of the new Windows laptops too but figured they would never run Linux :)

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Re:Apple just told the world it has no idea who the Mac is for by ChuckMcM on Friday October 28, 2016 @04:06PM (#12820126)

The unexpected thing is that it isn't a "distro" it is part of Windows 10. Microsoft created a kernel shim, which is part of the standard release now, that creates a Linux ABI into the NT kernel. As a result, Linux userland code just assumes its running on Ubuntu and as far as I have been able to ascertain it just works. All my bash scripts, all my perl code, all my python code, just runs.

That said, I've not used tools that open windows so I've been all command line.

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Re:Apple just told the world it has no idea who the Mac is for by eridius on Friday October 28, 2016 @05:06PM (#12820715)

I have it running on my Windows machine, and I've definitely hit some big limitations. I don't remember offhand what they were, but there was some software that completely failed to run. I do remember that tmux is completely unable to figure out what the current working directory is, which means when I restore my tmux session after restarting, all of the panes are reset back to the home folder.

Additionally, the terminal that comes with it is pretty crappy, but my internet searches don't turn up any way to get a better terminal that works with it. I also can't figure out where the Linux Subsystem filesystem is stored on my drive.

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Re:Apple just told the world it has no idea who the Mac is for by hashhar on Saturday October 29, 2016 @10:12AM (#12824029)

Yeah, terminal is a pain. You can try something like [Cmder](http://cmder.net/), [Babun](https://babun.github.io/).

If you are willing to build it yourself, [HyperTerm](https://hyper.is/#installation) is good.

For running GUI apps from within the subsystem, take a look at:

[1]: https://channel9.msdn.com/Blogs/WinCoder/XMING--Bash-on-Ubun...

[2]: https://www.reddit.com/r/unixporn/comments/4ye1gq/xfce_using...

[3]: https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/4ycxaz/the_new_l...

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Re:Apple just told the world it has no idea who the Mac is for by eridius on Saturday October 29, 2016 @04:54PM (#12826318)

Thanks! I'll go check those out sometime today, hopefully one of them does what I need.

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Re:Apple just told the world it has no idea who the Mac is for by eeeeeeeeeeeee on Friday October 28, 2016 @04:33PM (#12820379)

Gotcha, but you haven't tried a GUI or anything?

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Re:Apple just told the world it has no idea who the Mac is for by ChuckMcM on Friday October 28, 2016 @04:54PM (#12820589)

Nope, there is no xserver so really nothing to talk to locally. For grins, and because you asked, I did an install of gimp and verified I couldn't figure out how to get it to run :-)

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Re:Apple just told the world it has no idea who the Mac is for by majewsky on Saturday October 29, 2016 @09:28AM (#12823845)

> Nope, there is no xserver so really nothing to talk to locally.

I think the relevant Google keyword for this is "vcxsrv", an X server running under Windows. I saw something about people using it in WSL to launch regular Unix applications talking to X, but don't remember where.

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Re:Apple just told the world it has no idea who the Mac is for by ChuckMcM on Saturday October 29, 2016 @01:24PM (#12825056)

I actually have a license to xwin32, I wonder if I can get it running under windows 10 ...

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