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Re:MacBook Pro by ghshephard on Thursday October 27, 2016 @04:00PM (#12809280)
Given that 99% of users don't require more than 8GB in a MacLaptop, it's hard to justify increasing the maximum ram beyond 16 GB for that fraction of 1% of users who do. Not impossible, mind you - because there is always value in chasing after the 1%, but to some degree, Apple's efficiency at running their operating system and applications on small memory footprints makes it less valuable to increase their maximum ram footprint.
Re:MacBook Pro by vhost- on Thursday October 27, 2016 @04:17PM (#12809514)
Where does 99% come from?

My girlfriend is a nursing student, not a programmer and has 8 gigs of ram on her laptop. She's constantly asking me to look at her laptop when it beachballs and slows to a crawl when she's doing homework and her memory is maxed. She only has chrome, Word, Excel and some online courses open.

I don't buy that figure one bit.

Re:MacBook Pro by ghshephard on Thursday October 27, 2016 @06:48PM (#12811069)
I'm a power user. I currently have 43 applications open simultaneously on my i5 MBAir with 8 GB Ram. I have VMware fusion running Windows 7 (With Visio running inside that), and virtualBox running 4 OpenBSD images, Google Earth, the entire Office Suite (PPT/Excel/Word), Safari with 12-15 Tabs, etc, etc..

Of the approximately 100 million or so Macintosh Laptop users, it's entirely possible that a million of them are High End video editing or Developers/3D modeling and require more than 8GB, but I"m pretty confident that the vast majority of Macintosh Laptop Users will require less out of their system than I do - and, for better or worse, a lot of the high end scientific workstation/CAD-CAM/Servers/etc... have departed from the Macintosh Laptop Platform, and are now running on the MacPro, or, or, more likely, Linux/Windows.

And yes, I realize I've just argued myself into a corner, that those people have had to leave the Macintosh Laptop world because they need the horsepower/memory that they can only get on other platforms - but that's who is left on the MacLaptop community, and that's who Apple is targeting.

Re:MacBook Pro by SysArchitect on Thursday October 27, 2016 @04:41PM (#12809843)
Replace Chrome with Safari.

Unfortunately Chrome is absolutely terrible not just for power usage but also for RAM usage. For some reason Chrome loves memory, it gobbles it up. Safari is much better about it.

I switched from Chrome back to Safari recently and while it took some time adjusting, I have been seeing almost 2 - 3 hours longer battery life, and I have had way less issues with "beachballing".

Re:MacBook Pro by toyg on Thursday October 27, 2016 @05:10PM (#12810178)
"Doctor, it hurts when I do this!"

"Don't do it then."

I can't believe I have to repeat this, in 2016: software workload naturally expands to use all available resources. Period. Nobody likes doing "memory optimization" work when developing.

Re:MacBook Pro by raarts on Thursday October 27, 2016 @05:16PM (#12810249)
I regularly have 50 tabs open on Chrome. Switched to Safari a month ago hoping it would leave me more memory. Turns out my machine suddenly started beachballing, swapping like mad (battery usage up) and crashing. Switching back to Chrome completely fixed that problem.
Re:MacBook Pro by dzhiurgis on Thursday October 27, 2016 @06:01PM (#12810682)
You must be joking.

Safari is leaking memory. Unless you reboot your machine daily, Safari is terrible option.

I use both constantly. Chrome crashes are non-existant, where Safari crashes at least weekly.

Re:MacBook Pro by iainmerrick on Thursday October 27, 2016 @04:53PM (#12809989)
Try using Safari instead of Chrome? (I am actually being serious here, not trying to be facetious)
Re:MacBook Pro by monkmartinez on Thursday October 27, 2016 @06:02PM (#12810697)
But! What if I fucking loathe safari?
Re:MacBook Pro by daveFNbuck on Friday October 28, 2016 @02:59AM (#12813676)
There are more than two to choices available.
Re:MacBook Pro by gm-conspiracy on Thursday October 27, 2016 @04:38PM (#12809806)
Except that the 1% that develop the things that the other 99% use is the lifeblood of their ecosystem.

This seems very shortsighted. It is not like they are strapped for cash, and the prices still went up a few hundred dollars.

Re:MacBook Pro by cowardlydragon on Thursday October 27, 2016 @04:16PM (#12809501)
That is PC thinking.

Macbook PROs are for PROfessionals. Multiple VMs. Big fast SSDs. Many cores. Better displays.

Re:MacBook Pro by sangnoir on Thursday October 27, 2016 @05:29PM (#12810395)
> Macbook PROs are for PROfessionals

Haha, not anymore. For some time now, the PRO in Apple products is for PROsumers, or its possibly just a meaningless vestigial acronym now. See also: Final Cut X "Pro" which was obviously not targeted at professionals.

Re:MacBook Pro by jimbokun on Thursday October 27, 2016 @04:12PM (#12809451)
That 1%, though, are

1. probably more likely to be in Apple's target demographic, 2. buy the machines with the highest margins.

Re:MacBook Pro by EugeneOZ on Thursday October 27, 2016 @05:13PM (#12810216)
are we talking about "Pro" or just Macbook?
Re:MacBook Pro by ghshephard on Thursday October 27, 2016 @06:49PM (#12811078)
I'm including all the people who are currently using Macintosh Laptops - not including people on MacPros. Lots of Macbook Air users out there.