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Re:MacBook Pro by partiallypro on Thursday October 27, 2016 @03:00PM (#12808458)
Microsoft announced a laptop that gets 6 more hours of battery life than the MBP, while Apple used a chipset a full year behind Microsoft's.

For the desktop, if you think people don't use desktops you're out of touch with reality. Microsoft introduced the Surface Studio primarily targeting what Apple has started to abandon, creatives & creative professionals.

A 27" Cintiq tablet costs $2800 on Amazon, and that's without the stand, which is an additional $600. This is what video editors, audio engineers and graphic artists use in their studios. The Surface Studio replaces all of that -and- it replaces the computer itself. What are you missing here?

Re:MacBook Pro by masklinn on Thursday October 27, 2016 @03:06PM (#12808550)
> Microsoft announced a laptop that gets 6 more hours of battery life than the MBP, while Apple used a chipset a full year behind Microsoft's.

Which means Microsoft has introduced a dual-core low-voltage part significantly less powerful than the one in the MBP. Let's not kid ourselves here, Apple was not going to use 15W LV KL in either MBP, and the 45W parts are will 4~6 months from release.

Re:MacBook Pro by ptomato on Thursday October 27, 2016 @03:13PM (#12808646)
They do use the 15W Skylake in the non-touchbar MBP. Same claimed battery life, though.
Re:MacBook Pro by masklinn on Thursday October 27, 2016 @03:33PM (#12808927)
> They do use the 15W Skylake in the non-touchbar MBP.

True. I wasn't talking about the red-headed step-child but you've got a point here. The hold-up there might have been that there's no Iris KL (incidentally I'm pissed that they've apparently gone with the non-iris pro on the 15", what the fuck)

Re:MacBook Pro by ptomato on Thursday October 27, 2016 @03:41PM (#12809034)
Well, not only is there no iris KL, there's no quad-core KL yet, either. Dual-core 15W CPU in a pro machine seems... inadequate. Also, all the 15" have dedicated graphics so an Iris Pro would seem like just a waste of TDP to me.
Re:MacBook Pro by dogma1138 on Thursday October 27, 2016 @04:55PM (#12810018)
The IGP on the CPU is considerably more power efficient, the dedicated graphics can be pretty much switched of for anything non-Gaming or GPGPU related.
Re:MacBook Pro by ptomato on Friday October 28, 2016 @12:23PM (#12817672)
Yup. I'm just saving having (better, more power hungry) integrated graphics seems like a waste when you already have a dedicated GPU for when you want more performance.