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Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by Retric on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @02:50PM (#12799289)
"verify your results' is fine, but they don't have results yet.

They are being attacked simply for taking a while to decide an issue.

Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by aetherson on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @02:58PM (#12799365)
> The review, published in March 2015, concluded glyphosate is "probably carcinogenic", putting IARC at odds with regulators around the world.
Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by Retric on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @03:45PM (#12799785)
Here is what they published. http://monographs.iarc.fr/ENG/Monographs/vol112/mono112-09.p...

Which notes several cases without cancer links, but others with links "For all the children of the pesticide applicators, risk was increased for all childhood cancers combined, for all lymphomas combined, and for Hodgkin lymphoma, compared with the general population." It also notes there are "there are relatively few studies." So, noting that a link was 'probable' without saying "Yes" or "No" is not making up their minds.

They are basically saying, their is not enough information to declare it safe or dangerous.

Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by entee on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @05:16PM (#12800646)
Except that they didn't, they said "probably carcinogenic". That implies dangerous.
Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by Retric on Thursday October 27, 2016 @12:42AM (#12802972)
No, that's not what "probably carcinogenic" means. There is a 5 point scale, yes, likely yes, less likely yes, unstudied, no. It has been studied which removes the unstudied. However, they don't say there is enough evidence to say "Yes" or "No."
Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by finid on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @03:05PM (#12799429)
How then did they conclude that it's "probably carcinogenic"?

Based on what we know about these things, I actually believe that it is, but lets see how they reached that conclusion. Show us the data.

Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by tptacek on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @04:16PM (#12800044)
You believe glyphosate is probably carcinogenic? Why?
Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by Retric on Thursday October 27, 2016 @12:48AM (#12802987)
They published the studies they looked at:

http://monographs.iarc.fr/ENG/Monographs/vol112/mono112-09.p...

I would not say it's a clear yes, but there is some evidence for a cancer link across a range of studies.

Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by Andys on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @08:52PM (#12802083)
There is also the question of whether they're talking about a direct carcinogenic effect on the personnel applying the Round Up product, versus antibiotic effect on consumers of food containing Round Up residue.
Re:WHO Cancer Agency Asked Experts to Withhold Weed-Killer D... by jack9 on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @08:47PM (#12802063)
Because every study I've seen uses and SOLELY RELIES on Monsanto supplied data and is usually run by a Monsanto agent (current employ, previous employ, or political friend of Monsanto), although there was one study from Germany that did not have a Monsanto agent and came up with "probably not carcinogenic". You do not get data on how Roundup affects a population, excepting through Monsanto's blessing.