Faster and better browsing – Welcome Opera 41

Re:Faster and better browsing – Welcome Opera 41 by IsmaOlvey on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @05:55AM (#12795180)

The problem with sticking to 12 is that it's not really an option any more. You lose out on newer web technologies, and at least on Windows you run into security issues, since enabling newer TLS versions makes Opera prone to crash.

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Re:Faster and better browsing – Welcome Opera 41 by Mithaldu on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @06:04AM (#12795210)

Incorrect. With these customizations you can make it very easy to open any page/link from inside Opera in any other browser:

https://gist.github.com/wchristian/9a479b6969ba653681f50b415...

It is in practice entirely viable to keep using Opera as the main browser and punt troublemakers to other browsers as necessary.

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Re:Faster and better browsing – Welcome Opera 41 by IsmaOlvey on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @12:13PM (#12797685)

That it's easy to work around doesn't mean it's incorrect.

That aside, the SSL/TLS issues alone make it unusable. Changing the settings to make it use the newest TLS version it has support for makes it crash, and even if it did there are no updates at all any more. That means no security fixes, no support for new cipher suites, etc.

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Re:Faster and better browsing – Welcome Opera 41 by Mithaldu on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @12:24PM (#12797803)

You said: "not an option anymore"

This is incorrect in various ways, if only because there exists at least one example of someone using it successfully as the main browser, while also being employed as a web dev: Me.

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Re:Faster and better browsing – Welcome Opera 41 by EpicEng on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @01:47PM (#12798695)

You're right; just not an option to most reasonable people.

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Re:Faster and better browsing – Welcome Opera 41 by Mithaldu on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @01:58PM (#12798823)

Ah yes, ad hominem, the tool of choice for reasonable people.

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Re:Faster and better browsing – Welcome Opera 41 by EpicEng on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @04:00PM (#12799935)

I don't think you know what that means, and throwing the term around doesn't make you sound smart. I'm attacking your argument in that it is a ridiculous workaround for a problem that doesn't really exist.

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Re:Faster and better browsing – Welcome Opera 41 by Mithaldu on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @04:08PM (#12799985)

Nah man, i know exactly what it means and what your game is. You're pretty sad. :)

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Re:Faster and better browsing – Welcome Opera 41 by EpicEng on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @09:58PM (#12802362)

Yeah... I guess my "game" is that I wouldn't use an outdated browser and rely on a plugin to avoid security bugs and sites that use modern features. What are you even talking about?

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Re:Faster and better browsing – Welcome Opera 41 by Mithaldu on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @10:09PM (#12802415)

Primarily that you've sufficient lack of clue as to what you're even talking about that assuming I'm insane may in fact be healthiest for your machinery.

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Re:Faster and better browsing – Welcome Opera 41 by EpicEng on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @01:45PM (#12798683)

'troublemakers' as in, modern sites that v12 doesn't support? So now I have to use two browsers via a plugin? Yeah that sounds like solid UX there.

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