Re:White House urges ban on non-compete agreements for many ...
by greglindahl on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @02:10AM
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Well, the counter-example is that the tech industry in California completely collapsed because... oh, wait, we're doing OK.
Re:White House urges ban on non-compete agreements for many ...
by pmontra on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @02:36AM
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According to other posts here, CA banned non competes some 150 years ago.
Re:White House urges ban on non-compete agreements for many ...
by throw_away_777 on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @02:47AM
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The post you were replying to was sarcastic. The point is that if non-competes really were essential to companies, you would expect to see that reflected in CA. Instead the most notable thing is CA has higher salaries.
Re:White House urges ban on non-compete agreements for many ...
by sjg007 on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @02:11AM
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Take the job and let them sue. Scotus won't enforce a noncompete.
Re:White House urges ban on non-compete agreements for many ...
by greglindahl on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @02:19AM
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Non-competes are successfully enforced (outside CA) all of the time. Just take a look at the tech press, there are quite a few articles about it.
Re:White House urges ban on non-compete agreements for many ...
by codeonfire on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @02:32AM
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Non-compete lawsuits are typically only worth it for VP level people who have strategic secrets. No one cares about or sues 99.9% of workers who go work somewhere else.
Re:White House urges ban on non-compete agreements for many ...
by greglindahl on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @02:43AM
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I agree that when it hits the news it's generally a lawsuit against a VP, but you have no idea how many times lawyers send nasty letters, which are pretty effective.
Re:White House urges ban on non-compete agreements for many ...
by codeonfire on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @05:21AM
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Yep, letters cost almost nothing to send. Almost all employees have nothing to worry about for one reason. The corp will not go ahead with a lawsuit because the employee will almost always have no money or assets to take. It's amazing how pathological corporate behavior becomes when one views it from the money perspective.
Re:White House urges ban on non-compete agreements for many ...
by ghaff on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @09:19AM
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But there's a chilling effect. For lots of potential employers, the existence of a non-compete that might be litigated is a complete non-starter. I worked for a small company and I know for a fact we passed on at least one person who had a non-compete that was unlikely to be litigated but it just wasn't worth the risk.
Re:White House urges ban on non-compete agreements for many ...
by jacalata on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @02:47AM
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Jimmy John's managed to enforce it on their employees for years
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/7042112
Re:White House urges ban on non-compete agreements for many ...
by ams6110 on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @07:45AM
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Um... that story states that the clause was never actually enforced therefore there was no valid claim of harm.
Re:White House urges ban on non-compete agreements for many ...
by jacalata on Wednesday October 26, 2016 @11:53AM
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Good point, that wasn't the best article for my point! There are no specific lawsuits fighting the non-compete, however in the years following that case several states decided that the harm actually is caused simply by making employees sign the non-compete, and the company no longer has one.
If the person from your quantum computer example gets fired with non-compete, it would mean being forced out of he field with 100% certainty. Quite a leverage for a company.
In my opinion, there is still enough stuff out there benefiting corps over employees even if non-competes go away.