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Re:Is an Engineer an Artist? by smallnamespace on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @12:05PM (#12789053)
> pretty meaningless because people don't have a clear notion of what "artist" or "art" mean

Maybe meaningless purely in terms of getting to a concrete answer, but IMO collaboratively grappling with and exploring our intuitive ideas is useful, especially when people have different starting perspectives. E.g. this entire thread.

The world is not math, we can't always build our definitions from axioms. Sometimes analogical reasoning is the most accessible way to explore a concept.

Re:Is an Engineer an Artist? by jamesrcole on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @12:12PM (#12789118)
> but IMO collaboratively grappling with and exploring our intuitive ideas is useful

I fully agree.

I'd like to see more discussion about what those terms mean when "is X art/an-artist" questions come up.

I do think, though, that the meaning of those terms is often not discussed -- or perhaps, not honestly discussed, in a way that isn't simply serving people's prior judgement on the question -- at the times those questions come up.

Re:Is an Engineer an Artist? by rapind on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @12:23PM (#12789227)
I suspect the world (universe) IS math. We just aren't smart enough to figure it all out.

Your point still stands of course.