Re:Distrusting New WoSign and StartCom Certificates
by jcranmer on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @10:07AM
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The backdated certificates that have already been found are explicitly being added to OneCRL, which is to say that they are explicitly distrusted independent of what the CRL/OSCP responder of WoSign and StartCom say.
Re:Distrusting New WoSign and StartCom Certificates
by bandrami on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @10:17AM
(#12788164)
So some portion of Firefox users will be protected from them. Better than nothing I guess.
Re:Distrusting New WoSign and StartCom Certificates
by pfg on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @10:05AM
(#12788070)
IIRC they were revoked in the course of the investigation (somewhere in the last two months).
That being said, the risky bit is that they actually signed those SHA-1 certificates in the first place - a certificate that could be specially crafted to "collide" with one for a site an attacker wants to impersonate. It's not really all that important whether they're revoked (though there's nothing wrong with revoking them just in case).
As for CAs being the weak point, luckily we're going to be living in a mandatory Certificate Transparency world in the not-so-far future.
Re:Distrusting New WoSign and StartCom Certificates
by bandrami on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @10:20AM
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IDK, I'm worried this is an example of what that will look like: since the CAs are the actual stakeholders, the default question is going to be "what can we do to make this CA trustworthy again?" rather than "how can we make sure this CA never has another cert trusted again?"
At any rate, this gets to the crux of PKI's problem. This was a backdating of certificates because of a change in policy about the cryptographic strength of hashes. But the weak point in PKI isn't the cryptography, it's the agents.