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Re:Sputtering Startups Weigh on U.S. Economic Growth by loeg on Monday October 24, 2016 @02:45PM (#12781610)
The highest US federal bracket is 39.6% and I believe the highest state bracket is around 12.3% (California). The highest state sales tax is around 9.5% (Tennessee and other states without income tax). Local taxes are typically much lower in magnitude. (NYC income tax is another 3.9% for the highest earners.)

So at the very high end, someone in NYC might pay 52.3% income tax (edit: marginal rate) and 8% in sales tax.

And at the high end in California (San Francisco), someone might pay 51.9% income tax (edit: marginal rate) and 8.75% in sales tax.

(This is a little simplistic; I think you can deduct state income tax from federal tax, lowering the overall high marginal rate somewhat.)

Re:Sputtering Startups Weigh on U.S. Economic Growth by rm999 on Monday October 24, 2016 @03:59PM (#12782299)
>And at the high end in California (San Francisco), someone might pay 51.9% income tax and 8.75% in sales tax.

What you're talking about is the marginal tax rate, i.e. the limit as income -> infinity, but it's typically much much lower than this (even for the wealthy). Most people pay in the 10-20% range for federal income taxes. Millionares pay in this range too for several reasons, capital gains and write-offs.

The blue line on this plot shows the effective federal income tax: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_tax_in_the_United_State....

Re:Sputtering Startups Weigh on U.S. Economic Growth by loeg on Monday October 24, 2016 @04:14PM (#12782429)
> What you're talking about is the marginal tax rate

Yes, this whole comment thread has been discussing marginal rates. I thought that was clear from mentioning tax brackets in both my comment and refurb's grandparent comment, which mine is in comparison to.

I've edited the comment to be really clear that this is not an average rate.

Edit: Whoops, and I left out FICA taxes and it's too late to edit the above comment again. That adds another 7.65% (W-2), up to $118,500; 1.45% above that, and a little more at the top rate.

Re:Sputtering Startups Weigh on U.S. Economic Growth by graeme on Monday October 24, 2016 @04:48PM (#12782737)
The thread is about marginal rates. My actual average tax rate right now in Quebec is a bit over 30%
Re:Sputtering Startups Weigh on U.S. Economic Growth by rm999 on Monday October 24, 2016 @05:07PM (#12782903)
I see... I guess I'll just point out what you may already know: the way you guys are framing this discussion is really flawed. Marginal rates have no meaning without discussing brackets (and other important details), which can be quite different in different countries. Effective tax rate distributions are the only meaningful way to compare different countries' rates.

As an analogy, it would be like comparing Buffalo's weather to San Diego's based on the average high temperature in the summer (which may lead you to believe Buffalo is hotter than San Diego).

Re:Sputtering Startups Weigh on U.S. Economic Growth by graeme on Monday October 24, 2016 @06:09PM (#12783353)
True. I hadn't realized how much higher the top us brackets are compared to Canada. Higher income levels that is.
Re:Sputtering Startups Weigh on U.S. Economic Growth by loeg on Monday October 24, 2016 @04:53PM (#12782798)
Right. My marginal rate in the US is 29-35% (with Medicare tax/surtax) but my average rate is more like 21%.
Re:Sputtering Startups Weigh on U.S. Economic Growth by refurb on Monday October 24, 2016 @05:24PM (#12783063)
You also need to look at the income cutoffs for those brackets.

Top federal rate in Canada kicks in at $200K (33%).

Top federal rate in the US kicks in at $415K (39.6%).

Re:Sputtering Startups Weigh on U.S. Economic Growth by loeg on Tuesday October 25, 2016 @11:56AM (#12788984)
Sure, there are always additional complexities that add to the whole picture. This thread has been discussing the top marginal bracket.

You've posted the bracket for US single filers.

For another point of reference, the top state bracket in California kicks in at $526k (12.3%).