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Re:Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent by Spooky23 on Monday October 24, 2016 @02:45PM (#12781609)
Residential properties usually have short term leases. You have minimal incentive as a tenant to plant flowers, buy shrubs, etc. You have minimal inventive as a landlord to make the house look any more attractive than it needs to be.

Landlords don't maintain property to the same standard as an individual homeowner, when they do, they use more efficient service models (ie. a single crew with a single set of tools) to do so.

Tenants participate less and have much lower engagement. They have 1 year leases, and have less at stake. In my community, renters participate 60% less in terms of voting. There are 150 members of my local neighborhood association, and per a recent survey, 90% of participants are homeowners. They mostly solicit membership by dropping flyers and advertising in church bulletins. Per census figures, the population of renters is somewhere between 60-70% vs. homeowners.

The last point is that without homeownership, incentives shift to multi-family dwellings because they are cheaper and more efficient. Single family homes for rent are usually an aberration in my experience. As a homeowner in a city that is mostly rentals the per-unit taxable value of a multi-family house is significantly less than a single family.

Re:Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent by roel_v on Monday October 24, 2016 @03:05PM (#12781808)
None of this is true in Germany, so you're arguing a case on faulty premises (like 'x is true under current law, so we shouldn't change the law because x' - ignoring that a side effect, or maybe even a goal, of changing the law would be to make x not true).
Re:Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent by heisenbit on Monday October 24, 2016 @03:02PM (#12781772)
"Residential properties usually have short term leases."

Not true in Germany. Most leases are indefinite. As the contractual rent often increases by less than the market there is some incentive to stay put. Also keep in mind that moving in Germany is an expensive proposition as the kitchen is usually not part of the deal.

Re:Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent by Spooky23 on Monday October 24, 2016 @04:27PM (#12782558)
Germany has a different legal system and tradition. The probability of the US enacting indefinite leases is zero.
Re:Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent by arebop on Monday October 24, 2016 @07:41PM (#12783905)
1/3 of San Francisco apartments are effectively under indefinite lease.
Re:Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent by sosuke on Monday October 24, 2016 @04:44PM (#12782709)
It's a different story in the US which makes hard to have a comparable conversation unless both parties have intimate knowledge of both environments.

My rent in the US went up $100+ year after year, rent never goes down is the feeling you get and I've never seen or heard of it happening. You never invested anything into the property or building. Buying a home was freedom from that constant rising pressure, moving every 2-3 years to find another move in special and I can finally invest time and effort in my living space.

Re:Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent by hx87 on Monday October 24, 2016 @04:14PM (#12782427)
> Residential properties usually have short term leases. You have minimal incentive as a tenant to plant flowers, buy shrubs, etc. You have minimal inventive as a landlord to make the house look any more attractive than it needs to be.

That's because homeownership is a norm for long-term residents here in the USA. If long term renting were as much (or more) of a norm, an average renter would experience the same incentive to keep the place in an aesthetically pleasing state as an average owner, and landlords would have to make their properties much more attractive in order to have tenants.

Re:Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent by Spooky23 on Monday October 24, 2016 @04:28PM (#12782565)
Behavior of commercial tenants suggests otherwise.
Re:Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent by linkregister on Monday October 24, 2016 @04:56PM (#12782826)
Can you elaborate on this?

Every office I've ever worked in the continental U.S. was on a long term lease. The organizations I worked for spent large amounts of money to customize work spaces. It is very possible that software firms don't represent commercial tenants, so please give me more information so I can update my viewpoint.

Re:Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent by hx87 on Monday October 24, 2016 @04:48PM (#12782741)
Commercial persons are sociopathic (by definition, pretty much) and don't have concepts of consumption, experience, and pleasure the way real persons do.
Re:Most Germans don’t buy their homes, they rent by dionidium on Monday October 24, 2016 @02:55PM (#12781698)
I don't actually know the answer to this, but wouldn't you expect everything you say to be true in a society where ownership is the norm and not the case in a society where it isn't?