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Re:Boycott Docker by agentgt on Monday October 24, 2016 @12:10PM (#12780095)
The vendor lock in thing has embarrassingly been a concern of mine as well. It seems presently you are either locked in with your cloud provider or your locked with docker (e.g. using Google container engine vs Google deployment manager).

As a JVM shop I just can't see the value of using Docker when we can provision faster images using the cloud providers API (ala libcloud, jclouds, or directly using gcloud) and just build exectuable uber jars. That is in JVM land you only need to install Java (and for Go and Rust I suppose you have even less dependences).

I understand the value in the OSS world of providing docker images but I'm not sure I can justify the complexity of switching over yet. Are there any major companies (especially JVM) that have fully dockerized (ie converted and not started off using docker)? I know Netflix started too but I'm not sure they every did fully.

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Re:Boycott Docker by user5994461 on Monday October 24, 2016 @12:37PM (#12780386)
Use packer for EVERYTHING https://www.packer.io/ => better tools + avoid locking

As a benefit, you use ansible/chef/puppet for the installation and configuration (instead of Dockerfile). You can reuse your scripts.

As a benefit, you generate any output DockerImage/AWS-AMI/VmWare/VirtualBox. You have more flexibility. (e.g. Make an AMI for auto scaling groups + make a docker image for test environment).

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Re:Boycott Docker by elsonrodriguez on Monday October 24, 2016 @03:59PM (#12782298)
I dig packer, but it's getting pretty hard to find a cloud provider or on-prem solution that doesn't take a Docker image as an artifact.
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