Re:Battery technology may emerge as a trillion-dollar threat...
by phkahler on Sunday October 23, 2016 @01:39PM
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When a company fails the bond holders get paid first. Bonds are also the rich man's way of getting paid by governments. Lending money to finance war has always been a nice way to trap governments.
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Re:Battery technology may emerge as a trillion-dollar threat...
by jacques_chester on Sunday October 23, 2016 @02:43PM
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> Bonds are also the rich man's way of getting paid by governments.
Unless the government, which has the power to break the agreement, breaks the agreement.
The history of finance is well-woven with the thread of sovereign defaults.
Re:Battery technology may emerge as a trillion-dollar threat...
by TheSpiceIsLife on Sunday October 23, 2016 @02:58PM
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When this happens is it true that if a person had invested in private or publicly listed companies their money would have been safer?
I'm just thinking that by the time a state defaults on bonds the "rich man" may be facing a bundle of problems.
How much would diversification help in those circumstances?
Re:Battery technology may emerge as a trillion-dollar threat...
by jacques_chester on Sunday October 23, 2016 @05:20PM
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> When this happens is it true that if a person had invested in private or publicly listed companies their money would have been safer?
For a while during the 07-09 financial crisis, Coca-Cola bonds were priced by the market as less risky than Treasury bonds.
Re:Battery technology may emerge as a trillion-dollar threat...
by bwilliams18 on Sunday October 23, 2016 @03:43PM
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If your investments are all inside the country That defaults on its debt then yeah your fucked anyway, but if you're investing in a country's debt and you have little other exposure to said country, then their defaulting on the debt is the only thing that's fucking you. Argentinas default is the best example of this problem.
Re:Battery technology may emerge as a trillion-dollar threat...
by lmm on Monday October 24, 2016 @11:47AM
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> When this happens is it true that if a person had invested in private or publicly listed companies their money would have been safer?
Large multinational corporations are probably safer than the riskiest countries if that's what you're asking.
Re:Battery technology may emerge as a trillion-dollar threat...
by marcosdumay on Sunday October 23, 2016 @07:40PM
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They may be much safer, or they may be completely gone in any random afternoon. I guess, strictly speaking, that makes them safer.