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Re:CA Comodo used broken OCR and issued certificates to the ... by josho on Friday October 21, 2016 @01:01PM (#12762204)
No the problem is that we centralized trust instead of designing a distributed trust model. I suspect we centralized trust at the encouragement of folks like the NSA and similar ilk.

Regardless, look at the vast majority of technical users relying on SSH without using a CA for secure communications, had browsers done a better job at self-signed certs we could be doing the same on the web.

Re:CA Comodo used broken OCR and issued certificates to the ... by gsnedders on Friday October 21, 2016 @02:54PM (#12763451)
> Regardless, look at the vast majority of technical users relying on SSH without using a CA for secure communications, had browsers done a better job at self-signed certs we could be doing the same on the web.

How many technical users actually check the fingerprint matches the expected one of the server, out-of-band? Almost everyone I know just accepts the unknown fingerprint, so almost nobody knows who the endpoint they're actually connected to is.

Re:CA Comodo used broken OCR and issued certificates to the ... by emodendroket on Friday October 21, 2016 @04:15PM (#12764265)
It works OK as long as you're connecting to the correct one the first time, I suppose. But yeah, I agree.
Re:CA Comodo used broken OCR and issued certificates to the ... by jb613 on Friday October 21, 2016 @05:20PM (#12764953)
> I suspect we centralized trust at the encouragement of folks like the NSA and similar ilk.

In the mid-90's, CA certs were put into Netscape Navigator (IE joined later) in order to facilitate the new wild wacky concept that someone might buy something online. They called it "e-commerce".

Trust was centralized because it was far easier to add the then ~half-dozen CA's rather then somehow vetting every joe that wanted to self-sign their certs. PGP's web-of-trust existed but it was deemed less viable.

Besides, the whole SSL certs thing was a major business premise behind creating Netscape - profits. Without that there might not have been a dot-com and the huge amount of money that followed since then.