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Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by tempestn on Thursday October 20, 2016 @08:27PM (#12757339)
The iPhone was the first smartphone without a physical keyboard, allowing for a much more functional screen in a convenient form factor, right? I recall it seeming like a non-trivial difference at the time, and clearly a game-changing one.
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Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by jaxn on Thursday October 20, 2016 @09:05PM (#12757501)
No. There was a Palm Treo smartphone without a keyboard first. It even had a 3rd party app ecosystem.
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Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by tempestn on Friday October 21, 2016 @04:03AM (#12758896)
All the pictures I can find of Palm Treos have keyboards. Which model was it that didn't?
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Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by roel_v on Saturday October 22, 2016 @10:19AM (#12768776)
Some models of the Tungsten didn't have keyboard. Most palms didn't, the advantage of the treo was that it did so you didn't have to learn the palm handwriting system. The screens weren't sensitive enough for on screen keyboards.
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Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by tempestn on Saturday October 22, 2016 @04:20PM (#12770393)
Ya, I should have phrased my original comment differently. The iPhone was the first phone that effectively made the on-screen keyboard unnecessary. Past devices did without one, but not without a significant loss of functionality.
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Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by bboreham on Friday October 21, 2016 @07:46AM (#12759588)
I had a Sony Ericsson P800 in 2003: http://cdn2.gsmarena.com/vv/pics/sonyericsson/snp800_00.jpg
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Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by Tepix on Friday October 21, 2016 @09:30AM (#12760217)
I had one too. It had a pen, it was not really usable without it.
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Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by roel_v on Saturday October 22, 2016 @10:16AM (#12768762)
Palm treo/tungsten had a keyboard but also a good screen and were far more functional than the first iphones. Not as flashy and the software was much more expensive though.
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