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Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by vkou on Thursday October 20, 2016 @11:36AM (#12753231)
> First: Why do you always need to assume web dev is stupid. Or less impactful. Imagine a bank website showing 10,000 <your currency> less in your account.

The impact of that, terrifying as it may be, is still significantly less then the impact of a self-driving-but-buggy vehicle into the side of a semi.

Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by aws_ls on Thursday October 20, 2016 @11:49AM (#12753367)
I was arguing against the trivialization of web dev -- this isn't web development -- while I agree that self driven car is one of the highest level of critical. But that said, people can equally suffer, if not so visually, due to financial app bugs. I shudder to think of state of people who lost lot of money in hacks on MtGox and other Bitcoin exchanges for example.
Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by erikpukinskis on Thursday October 20, 2016 @01:05PM (#12754082)
There was no net impact in that accident. It replaced three deaths which would have occurred without autopilot, so it was part of a net gain in lives.

Perhaps that particular human was special and worth saving over the other two who were saved instead, but I am not aware of any reason to believe that.

Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by vkou on Thursday October 20, 2016 @03:31PM (#12755351)
> There was no net impact in that accident.

Only after a particularly tortured interpretation of highway safety statistics.

If you exclude pedestrian deaths (Few jaywalkers on the interstate), motorcycle deaths, deaths in conditions where autopilot cannot be used, and deaths due to collisions of lighter, less safe, older, or poorly-maintained automobiles, then regular highway death statistics start looking better then autopilot-enabled ones. [1] [2]

Again, there's a great gap between the hype of Tesla, and the reality.

[1] https://www.technologyreview.com/s/601849/teslas-dubious-cla...

[2] http://www.forbes.com/sites/samabuelsamid/2016/07/05/adding-...