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Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by beambot on Thursday October 20, 2016 @11:18AM (#12753060)
I'm not disagreeing with you. I like the move; I think it's smart.

But saying it's an "autonomous car" because it has the sensors and computers just isn't so. When it gets the software, then it's an "autonomous car."

To use GPs analogy to the iPhone1: If Apple had just shipped the hardware without iOS, it wouldn't have been the iPhone.

Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by weaksauce on Thursday October 20, 2016 @12:53PM (#12753981)
The iPhone couldn't cut and paste for a long while. Hell, iirc, there wasn't the App Store until iOS 2 or 3.
Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by ethbro on Thursday October 20, 2016 @11:45AM (#12753332)
I don't think the iPhone had iOS 10 ;). Apple is a pretty good analogy for what Tesla's HW/SW plans seems to be. "Reasonable" backwards software support (at least compared to the otherwise "none") while iterating hardware.
Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by aerovistae on Thursday October 20, 2016 @11:21AM (#12753082)
That I agree with, yes. But he always stretches the wording. It's his version of advertising, and frankly I prefer it over dancing hamsters.