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Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by Animats on Thursday October 20, 2016 @12:27AM (#12749728)
Google is at stage 3 and getting close to stage 4 for slow (< 25MPH) vehicles. See Urmson's talk at SXSW, where he shows Google cars handling many unusual situations. (A woman in a powered wheelchair chasing a turkey with a broom is one example.) If you're willing to drive slow, more situations can be handled. It's not necessary to have as much sensor range, situations are less ambiguous, braking hard will resolve most problems, and predicting what's going to happen becomes less important.

At higher speeds, prediction becomes more of an issue. Will that car on the side street drive into the intersection, or not? At slow speeds, you can wait and see what they do. At higher speeds, you have to predict behavior. That's hard, but a machine learning problem.

Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by jayjay71 on Thursday October 20, 2016 @12:42AM (#12749771)
This is with the caveat that the weather is nice and you're in one of Google's specially mapped areas. As I understand it - and I never worked at Google and I keep waiting for someone who does to correct me on it - those maps are very difficult to scale and maintain.
Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by petra on Thursday October 20, 2016 @09:03AM (#12751821)
The limited area/weather isn't a huge problem.commercially . You just need to start offering it in a single city when possible, prove the tech and business works , and than you could get tons of money to scale to other cities .
Re:All Tesla Cars Being Produced Now Have Full Self-Driving ... by jayjay71 on Thursday October 20, 2016 @07:21PM (#12757003)
I don't see how that solves the weather problem, unless you're limiting yourself to cities with nice weather. Even then - all cities have bad weather occasionally.

I'm not arguing against progress. I think it's great people are working on this and obviously you have to start somewhere. I'm just pointing out the fully autonomous vehicle is not a few years away.