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Re:Background on Attempts to Frame Assange as a Pedophile an... by notahacker on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @06:36PM (#12739336)
If there's one person that doesn't stand to gain from lots and lots of attention being drawn to Julian Assange, it's Hillary Clinton. Hillary Clinton doesn't want you to be researching into this Julian Assange guy whose apparently been the victim of a scheme to accuse him of accepting Russian money and chatting up infants in the Bahamas, both via the same dating website (which is obviously a totally plausible cover story that a real conspirator with near unlimited resources would definitely choose as the best avenue to set him up) but also has a very interesting website with a lot of very awkward statements linked to at least one of the candidates for the presidency.

If there's one person that stands to gain most from a reported attempt at a hatchet job on Assange that's far too silly to have any basis in truth, it's probably a person who would really, really like you to (i) visit Wikileaks.com, preferably before November 9th (ii) not believe a word of all these - actually quite possibly not true - rumours floating around about Russians being prime movers behind Wikileaks.com (iii) not think too much about that interview he just postponed again because obviously allegations of sexual impropriety against Julian Assange are just part of a fiendishly stupid conspiracy.

Funnily enough in the last couple of weeks this person has also had his internet cut by a state actor... wait for next round of stories.... not the state actor you think... wait for next round of stories.... just kidding, it was American influence all along, and had to cancel a widely publicised balcony announcement because of apparently unanticipated security concerns.

(I can actually think of a second person that might benefit from people visiting Wikileaks before November 9th and people tending to suspect that all allegations of sexual impropriety should be treated as politically motivated until proven otherwise, but I think Ockham's razor and his campaign team's preference for blunter instruments rules that one out...)

Re:Background on Attempts to Frame Assange as a Pedophile an... by makomk on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @06:58PM (#12739487)
Except that it was almost entirely Clinton supporters pushing this on sites like Daily Kos, Twitter, HN, etc. Wikileaks were really late to the party on getting a press release out about this, with Buzzfeed dismantling the whole thing shortly before they got their press release out and rendering it almost moot, and the attack was timed when the internet connection cut limited their ability to respond effectively. The fact that the whole hatchet job was ridiculous didn't matter, because Clinton's supporters just ignored this and accused anyone who pointed it out of being pro-pedo, and it got almost 24 hours of being spread around the internet unchallenged. Not only that, countering it tied up a bunch of time and resources that could've been used to post things damaging to her instead.

It looks like Ecuador have also just published a press release about cutting his internet connection that's perfectly timed to distract from this too. So Clinton's in no way losing out here. She benefits from people believing that Assange is a pedo and no-one hears about part where it's an incompetent frameup. The taint from this will stick to anything Assange says about her in future.

Re:Background on Attempts to Frame Assange as a Pedophile an... by paulmd on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @07:10PM (#12739570)
Clinton doesn't need a conspiracy to win, it's as simple as that. She's polling at +8 nationally, if the election were held today she has at least a 75% chance of a landslide election (320+ EVs) if the election were held today, and there's zero indication that Trump's numbers have any upward mobility whatsoever at this point. In fact, the Republicans will be lucky to hold onto the House if things keep going the way they have the past couple weeks.

There's no reason to do a dumb attempt at stinging a has-been like Assange. Literally all it could do is hurt her (if it backfired and people took Assange seriously).

http://election.princeton.edu/todays-electoral-vote-histogra...

Hanlon's Razor says that if it looks like some dumb idiot ("small business owner") who thought he could hire Assange for his TV commercial and then got his jimmies rustled that Assange said no then it probably is that instead of an international conspiracy. But even if we're moving into conspiracy territory, Clinton doesn't have the motive here.

Re:Background on Attempts to Frame Assange as a Pedophile an... by notahacker on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @07:35PM (#12739694)
She doesn't benefit from people believing Assange is a paedo, which I don't think any mainstream media source has bothered reporting as potentially true. She benefits much more from nobody talking about him at all, and focusing on all the nasty stuff coming out from basically everywhere except Wikileaks about the man she's running against (but apparently not comparable dirt on Pence; wouldn't she focus more effort on framing her opponent's running mate than some foreign journalist who's already got the not insignificant matter of a Swedish prosecutor wanting to charge him with rape hanging over him?)

Just because a few Clinton supporters on Twitter who really don't like Assange think the allegation is worth crowing about and the Daily Kos has no journalistic standards and will print anything if it's a scoop doesn't mean Clinton is anything but a little worse off if this news cycle is about Assange.