Millenials don't make much money so your median income statistics are skewed toward younger people who tend more democrat.
Re:Shame on Y Combinator
by knucklesandwich on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @07:29PM
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That only (partially) explains the median income for Bernie voters, not Clinton voters: http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/how-clinton-won/
Also I'm not sure why that's important, is your assumption that Millennials don't have legitemate economic anxiety?
Re:Shame on Y Combinator
by dragonwriter on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @07:37PM
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It's important because while income and class are correlated they aren't the same thing; a young member of the middle class will often have income less than someone well into a working class career.
And Clinton supporters in the general election tend to be much younger than Trump supporters. ("Bernie voters" in the primary are, overwhelmingly, Clinton supporters in the general.)
Re:Shame on Y Combinator
by knucklesandwich on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @07:42PM
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Class is a set of wealth and income categories (or is in the US anyways, I can't speak for other countries). I'm not sure why you claim they're "correlated". They're literally the same thing.
Re:Shame on Y Combinator
by dragonwriter on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @07:50PM
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No, it's not. Income is often used as a proxy for class, but it's not the same thing.
Re:Shame on Y Combinator
by knucklesandwich on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @07:59PM
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It seems like your assertion here is that Clinton's supporters skew low income because they're college students being subsidized by their parents and not actual low income workers or unemployed non-dependents. So while your own poll in the other thread basically rejects that by giving the share of voters for family income and not individual income, you still haven't actually given any data to support this. All you've done is tell me I'm wrong about what the definition of class is without an alternate definition.
You also haven't done any work towards arguing against the fact that voters for Trump fundamentally don't live in areas with high immigrant populations or where their jobs were moved overseas. In other words the notion that Trump voters support immigration reform and trade protectionism because they have bad run-ins with our current policies on these issues.
Face it, Trump voters are bigots.
The first thing that's wrong about this is the assumption that the most economically disenfranchised vote at all. The least financially secure voters have some of the lowest turnout in America, with only about 20% of them voting [1]. These people fundamentally don't vote. The second problem is to try to pretend like Trump actually has a claim on the working class as his base to a greater extent than other candidates. He doesn't [2]. The median income on Trump supporters from the primaries was higher than that of Clinton supporters or Bernie supporters. He also claims a larger take of the wealthiest voters, who compose 9% of his voters in the primary, vs. Clinton and Sanders' 7% and 5% respectively. Fundamentally, his demographic skews more wealthy than the democrats.
A recent gallop survey with a large sample size shows that Trump's base don't live in areas that experience job loss due to companies moving overseas, nor do they live in areas with large immigrant populations [3]. They live in areas that are largely racially segregated (largely white). They have tradecraft jobs like HVAC repairmen, plumber, etc. and live relatively comfortably. Fundamentally though, these people have low exposure to people of color, which might explain their bigotry. Finally, surveys tend to show that Trump voters have a more negative opinion of muslims and people of color [4], which should be of no surprise.
So no, please pedal your "Trump's voters are the economically anxious white workers of America" narrative somewhere else. The truth is that Trump voters are bigots.
[1]: http://www.people-press.org/2015/01/08/the-politics-of-finan...
[2]: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-mythology-of-trumps-...
[3]: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2822059
[4]: http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/10/15/13286498/d...