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Re:Shame on Y Combinator by munificent on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @02:06PM (#12737099)

    > For all the crazy things Trump says, for all is egoism he has some very
    > important points which needs to be addressed and discussed and he represents a
    > group of people who haven't been represented for the last 40 years. A group
    > who are themselves excluded from society. A group who experience their own
    > form of discrimination by the likes of Marcos, me and everyone else who are
    > benefitting from the progress of technology, globalization, taxation rules and
    > so on.
You are exactly right, and this is something many of my current friends who are generally well-to-do and live in a highly progressive city are unaware of.

I grew up in the South, and I have friends and family who have very much ended up on the "have-not" side of the economic equation over the past couple of decades. The US today is a shittier place if you're anywhere near the bottom half of the income chart. If you grew up poor in a poor state and didn't happen to get a good education, our country doesn't know what to do with you.

We took away your low-knowledge-but-high-skills manufacturing jobs. Those got outsourced or automated away. The chronic pain you likely suffer from those back breaking jobs is even worse today. First your doctor got you hooked on Oxy, then that was taken away, so there's a real chance you're self-medicating with any of a cornucopia of drugs up to and including heroin and meth.

You don't have an employer to provide you healthcare, and you can't afford it on your own. You're sick, tired, and unemployed. And you didn't do anything to deserve it. You took the public education you were offerred and worked hard at the jobs you could find.

You're too poor to move away from your shithole town. You rely on your constellation of family and friends so you have no mobility. Even if you could move, your lack of service skills and the booming real estate market means you couldn't find a job in a big city that paid enough for you to survive.

These people are angry, and justifiably so. The wealthy and the urban progressives have reshaped the country to their benefit and left a lot of people behind. It's a great time to be a skilled service worker in a big city, and not a great time to be much else.

So I totally get where Trump supporters are coming from. If you listen to his rhetoric, he knows exactly the pain these people feel and speaks directly to them. I don't blame them for supporting him.

The problem is that he's full of shit and not a single thing he is promising them will come to pass, or is even a coherent proposal. The heartbreaking part of this election is not that people support Trump who is a raging asshole, but sadly that they believe he would even help them if he won.

This is basically a zero-win election for the poor in the US.

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