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Re:Shame on Y Combinator by fisherjeff on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @10:38AM (#12734796)
No one has the influence to convert the US to anything overnight. However, I do think that normalizing the language of authoritarianism can have long-term negative effects on our democratic process.
Re:Shame on Y Combinator by ThomPete on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @11:17AM (#12735276)
The same thing can be said about the normalization of globalization and technological progress which allowed the politicians and the companies who pay for their campaigns to trade jobs for cheap flat screens.

Ignoring one just because the other is more obvious isn't any better in my book.

Re:Shame on Y Combinator by fisherjeff on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @11:41AM (#12735529)
No need to assume that I'm ignoring anything. I'm willing to accept globalization and technological progress despite their many imperfections because they have real, tangible benefits to humanity. On the other hand, the only person that stands to gain from authoritarianism is its leader.
Re:Shame on Y Combinator by ThomPete on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @11:50AM (#12735626)
Yeah so you are willing to accept the collateral damage of those who don't stand to benefit and whose lives are being destroyed from that. This is just another version of the same. Not better, not worse, just different.
Re:Shame on Y Combinator by jshevek on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @11:19AM (#12735293)
This is exactly why the anti-Trump hyperbole is dangerous.
Re:Shame on Y Combinator by inimino on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @01:53PM (#12736977)
If the world is ending and the country is at stake then both sides take up pitchforks.
Re:Shame on Y Combinator by hiringmanager on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @12:19PM (#12735955)
Trumps authoritarianism is much less threatening than the same rhetoric from Obama or Hillary.

A lot of people are advocating authoritarianism- in fact thats the point of this whole thread- whether we should "excommunicate" Peter Theil.

But they don't seem to realize that leftism is essentially more authoritarian than rightism. Rightists want economic freedom, Leftists don't. (On social freedom neither of them want it- which is why Obama didn't try to legalize gay marriage, and picked Joe Biden the architect of the war on teen pot smokers as a running mate.)

Why don't liberals recognized that Hillary and Obama are authoritarians?

Re:Shame on Y Combinator by lobf on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @08:27PM (#12739941)
They're authoritarian in a sense too, but only in the ways you would expect people inside of an institution wanting to expand that institution's powers.

Trump is authoritarian in a different, more overt way. He's proposed extreme authoritarian moves like mass deportation, religious tests for entry to the US, camps, and directing the justice system at political enemies.

Maybe you don't see the difference between their versions of authoritarianism, but I do, and a lot of other people do too. It's an unfair comparison, and I think you should be able to recognize that.