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Re:Shame on Y Combinator by rfrey on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @09:45AM (#12734217)
What are Trump and Thiel if not "elites"? So it seems the elites are campaigning against each other.
Re:Shame on Y Combinator by mafribe on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @10:41AM (#12734844)
The socialist tradition has a suitable term: "class traitor".

The ruling class is ruling, in substantial parts because they are better at cooperating than other classes (and are good at seeding discord in other classes). One aspect of ruling class cooperation is ruthlessly punishing their own class traitors.

I suspect that is part of what the whole saga is about.

Re:Shame on Y Combinator by jshevek on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @11:58AM (#12735708)
In a sea of partisan squabble, you've said something truly worthy of thought. This has analogs in everything from organized crime to the interactions of genes.
Re:Shame on Y Combinator by abecedarius on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @12:48PM (#12736306)
That's interesting. What are some other examples of ruling-class traitors getting punished?

P.S. I hate having to add a disclaimer like this, but: I'm genuinely interested.

Re:Shame on Y Combinator by Perceval on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @03:30PM (#12737876)
I don't have an example of one getting punished, but I do recall this book, Traitor to His Class: The Privileged Life and Radical Presidency of Franklin Delano Roosevelt: https://www.amazon.com/Traitor-His-Class-Privileged-Presiden...
Re:Shame on Y Combinator by jessaustin on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @03:37PM (#12737933)
Insider trading prosecutions are usually examples of either this phenomenon or the related effort to keep upstarts out of the executive class. Only certain people may steal from investors in public firms.
Re:Shame on Y Combinator by cerebrum on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @09:54AM (#12734313)
Elites relative to whom? Clinton has decades in the top echelons of power besides being married to an ex-POTUS so I guess it is hard to be more elite on a global scale.

Trump might be elite compared to the average Joe on the street but he has no political history comparable to Clinton.

And the biggest issue of all: Trump seems to be the best candidate to avoid WW III.

Re:Shame on Y Combinator by jessaustin on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @09:53AM (#12734299)
At times I've suspected this entire cacophony of anti-Trump vitriol was just a ploy to convince the plebes that he isn't one of TPTB... What would really change under Trump? Coke and Pepsi taste the same to me.
Re:Shame on Y Combinator by burkaman on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @10:04AM (#12734406)
How can you be sure that Trump is lying about every single thing he says? Every position he claims to hold would be a massive change. Most of Clinton's positions are "everything is pretty good, just need a few tweaks".
Re:Shame on Y Combinator by cerebrum on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @09:55AM (#12734323)
Change: no WW III. Seems good enough of a difference to me.
Re:Shame on Y Combinator by jessaustin on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @04:07PM (#12738170)
It would take a very principled person to resist the various appeals of the military-industrial complex. Trump is not that person. All it will take is a couple of ex-generals making the rounds on Sunday morning saying, "if Trump weren't such a pussy he'd be bombing the Syrians already!"
Re:Shame on Y Combinator by trdrake on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @11:33AM (#12735455)
The guy who "will end ISIS very, very quickly", and might just use nukes to do it?

http://fortune.com/2016/03/23/trump-nuclear-weapons-isis/

Re:Shame on Y Combinator by cerebrum on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @12:59PM (#12736452)
Putin's Warning Against Electing Hillary Clinton:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4gTt7Y1agU

Re:Shame on Y Combinator by heartbreak on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @09:06PM (#12740134)
Thanks! I always appreciate an unbiased source like Putin to clear up matters of US politics.