Peter Thiel, YC, and hard decisions

Re:Peter Thiel, YC, and hard decisions by oh_sigh on Monday October 17, 2016 @04:09PM (#12729161)

So...what do you think about the women who are still voting for Trump(who number in the millions), even though they've probably seen the same video you have(and come to different conclusions about it being sexual assault).

Are they too stupid to know what's good for them? Trapped in some kind of Trump stockholm syndrome? They enjoy being dehumanized?

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Re:Peter Thiel, YC, and hard decisions by ryanobjc on Monday October 17, 2016 @06:05PM (#12730216)

I guess all I can say is that the truth isn't subject to voters approval.

Human rights and LGBT rights, and women's rights are part of a natural truth. Maybe you can spin that as an opinion, but to me you're denying a logical sequence of reasoning that tells me that everyone deserves equality and respect.

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Re:Peter Thiel, YC, and hard decisions by oh_sigh on Monday October 17, 2016 @06:13PM (#12730275)

Sure. And just because you think something is true doesn't make it true.

What percentage of black people were voting for KKK-associated politicians? Was it 43%? Why do 43% of voting age women disagree with your take on the matter? Are they all delusional?

> Maybe you can spin that as an opinion, but to me you're denying a logical sequence of reasoning that tells me that everyone deserves equality and respect.

'I am perfectly logical, and anyone who disagrees with me is illogical'

> everyone deserves equality and respect.

I absolutely agree.

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Re:Peter Thiel, YC, and hard decisions by dragonwriter on Monday October 17, 2016 @06:21PM (#12730337)

43% of voting age women aren't supporting Trump, as you imply. His support is around 43% overall, but it's much lower with women, and higher with men.

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Re:Peter Thiel, YC, and hard decisions by oh_sigh on Monday October 17, 2016 @06:34PM (#12730426)

I'm referring to here[1], which states that Clinton is +15 on average compared to Trump with women. Yes, I did assume that it is only a 2-person playing field because I don't know how those polls were conducted(was it "who are you voting for?", or "would you choose Trump or Clinton?")

[1] http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-women-ar...

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Re:Peter Thiel, YC, and hard decisions by dragonwriter on Monday October 17, 2016 @06:47PM (#12730520)

So, you conflated share of the voting age population with share of those planning to vote for one of the two major candidates, tried to get a number for that from percentage spread between the two major candidates among those planning on voting for any candidate, and then rounded favorably to your candidate. Resulting in an implausibly high number matching Trump's support in the general electorate even though the same source says that his support among women is substantially lower.

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Re:Peter Thiel, YC, and hard decisions by oh_sigh on Monday October 17, 2016 @07:35PM (#12730811)

Okay. So what is the correct number? Do you disagree with the core of my argument, or are you just interested in quibbling?

If Trumps support was something extremely small like 1-9% for any group, then I would say there is a pretty good possibility that that group sees something very wrong with the candidate. If it is something more, like say in the twenties or higher, then there is hardly a consensus.

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