Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'
by zzleeper on Monday October 17, 2016 @02:55PM
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I think Assange doesn't care that much who is elected, as long as it's not Hillary (because of the things she did against him and the things she promised to do). In this case his only choice is Trump, but it could have been others.
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Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'
by tptacek on Monday October 17, 2016 @02:56PM
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To believe that Assange is motivated by a vendetta against HRC, you not only have to conjure up a plausible motive for that vendetta despite Clinton's marginal role in any of the US's dealings with Wikileaks, but also rationalize his efforts to put into power someone who has promised to put Edward Snowden to death.
No, not buying it.
Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'
by matthewrobertso on Monday October 17, 2016 @03:28PM
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Does HRC wanting to drone strike Assange qualify as something he might be concerned about?
https://www.rt.com/usa/361459-secretary-clinton-drone-assang...
Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'
by JamesBarney on Monday October 17, 2016 @04:02PM
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No real evidence for this.
Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'
by DominikR on Monday October 17, 2016 @04:23PM
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The person who wrote this article is obviously engaging in high level mental gymnastics.
She explicitly asked to have Assange assassinated -> people laughed -> until they realised she was serious because she offers arguments why it would be better to kill him.
My 2 cents: Assange is anti establishment and that's why he helps Trump.
Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'
by tptacek on Monday October 17, 2016 @04:27PM
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It doesn't take gymnastics to reach the conclusion that the Secretary of State of the United States of America is not seriously advocating for a military strike on the Ecuadorian embassy in the largest city of our closest ally. The notion that Clinton wants to "drone" Assange is about as credible as the notion that she and Podesta discussed murdering Antonin Scalia in a "Wetworks" operation.
Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'
by luminiferous on Monday October 17, 2016 @07:33PM
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Wasn't this supposed drone quote said before Assange entered the Ecuadorian embassy? The quote was in 2010, but Assange wasn't at the embassy until 2012. Not to say I believe that Clinton was seriously considering assassinating Assange, but I don't think that not wanting a drone strike in the middle of London is a valid argument against it.
Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'
by tptacek on Monday October 17, 2016 @09:42PM
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The "2010" quote is unsourced.
Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'
by DominikR on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @05:34AM
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http://truepundit.com/under-intense-pressure-to-silence-wiki...
It was on 23rd Nov 2010.
Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'
by tptacek on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @08:02AM
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Yes, that is an unsourced claim.
Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'
by DominikR on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @08:24AM
(#12733714)
Yes unsourced claim referenced by Assange himself with his WikiLeaks Twitter account.
Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'
by JamesBarney on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @12:41PM
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The level of evidence for this claim is "I heard from someone that Clinton said it once, I won't tell you who that person is or provide any evidence I talked to them. But there is supporting evidence because she often jokes about drone striking troublesome adversaries."
It's not nothing, but it's pretty damn close.
Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'
by kyledrake on Monday October 17, 2016 @03:43PM
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This is a really good point. HRC isn't necessarily good for Wikileaks, but Trump would conceivably be a lot, lot worse.
Perhaps the idea is that they might get off easier if Trump feels Wikileaks gave him an election present, but I find that to be a high risk gamble, especially at this point. That said, the argument could perhaps just as easily be made if they leaked a bunch of Trump stuff too.
I don't think anyone can really determine motives at this point with the current base of information.
Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'
by tptacek on Monday October 17, 2016 @04:44PM
(#12729539)
We're not required to unspool Assange's weird motives to acknowledge that he is essentially functioning as an arm of the Trump campaign, and must know that he's doing so.
Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut'
by dragonwriter on Monday October 17, 2016 @04:59PM
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I don't see any evidence that he is providing any electoral even fit to Trump; I think he is more, in effect, serving as an arm of the Russian regime acting to undermine trust in the US leadership and government regardless of the election results than he is acting to improve Trump's electoral prospects.