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Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut' by smsm42 on Monday October 17, 2016 @02:50PM (#12728016)
I must agree with the parent post - Trump and HRC operate in entirely different way. HRC is basically the avatar of corruption, if corruption were personified it would look and act like her. She doesn't need alternative reality, the current reality of the government is completely fine, she feels in it like fish in the water. She knows all the levers, and she knows how to abuse the system and how get away with things. Of course, this requires lying, violating laws and so on - but it's all accounted for in the corrupt system, and all is already part of what they are doing. The only worry is that not too much is publicly revealed and enough power is there to make what is revealed go away. So far it worked fine.

For Trump, it's completely different. His strategy is built on two pillars - exposing the existence of the corrupt system and presenting himself as somebody who can fix it. The second part, unfortunately, is completely false and that's where alternative reality comes in - he needs to paint himself as somebody capable of doing a thing he has no idea how to do and no capability to do. That's why he always proposes over the top things - to capture one's imagination and paint himself as somebody who can do things. The proposal itself does not matter, neither the facts he claims to base it on - what matters is the image of somebody who knows how to do things, and has the guts to do them. Since the reality of his capabilities is rather modest, constant stream of fiction is required to keep this idea alive.

Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut' by alistproducer2 on Monday October 17, 2016 @03:41PM (#12728775)
I agree with your assessment. HRC represents the "devil you know" to many people vs. "the one you don't" (Trump). A lot of how people feel is fueled by our hyperbolic, news-as-entertainment industry, but not all of it.

It's not irrational paranoia to believe your government operates as a separate entity, one that is not subject to the rule of law. From the Iraq war, to torture, to retroactively legal bulk collection, to immunity granted to telecoms for doing illegal surveillance, to no one going to jail in response to 2008, the list goes on and on.

We have a government all too happy to throw millions of us in jail for the most minor of offenses, yet the same rules don't appear to apply to the people constantly on our TV screens or ones that aren't with enough connections.

HRC is not the devil, but she represents something deeply unsavory to a lot of Americans on both sides of the political spectrum.

Trump is an obvious mad man. The fact that so many people are willing to give such a man the ability to unilaterally destroy humanity speaks volumes about where western civilization is at right now.

Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut' by smsm42 on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @04:52AM (#12732970)
Nobody gives anybody ability to destroy humanity, no need for histrionics. We don't have elections for God or Emperor, just President, whose powers are large but limited. This is what the whole idea of limited government with independent branches is about. The same idea the current President is working so hard to destroy.
Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut' by alistproducer2 on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @10:56AM (#12735012)
While there is a chain of command that could potentially stop a rogue president from unilaterally ordering a nuclear strike, at the end of the day the POTUS has an immense power in his ability to order a nuclear strike.
Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut' by smsm42 on Tuesday October 18, 2016 @01:05PM (#12736510)
This whole nuclear strike thing is a canard, nobody is going to nuclear strike anybody. Yes, there's a chain of command, and also Trump is not some Hollywood supervillain. He is a real estate developer, a conman and a blowhard, not a Doctor Evil. So we need to stop discussing Hollywood scenarios and start discussing real issues the country is facing.