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Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut' by cryoshon on Monday October 17, 2016 @01:22PM (#12727066)
> it became clear to me that, at some point, the attempts to tarnish Wikileaks's name was to prime the listening audience in a way such that when information so irreparably damaging would get released, the voters would have to choose between continuing a corrupt government and choosing an apparently mad authoritarian, and to soften the landing on the former.

correct. you saw the exact same defamation routine a few years ago with the iraq leaks, and again (not as strongly) with the diplomatic cable leaks. the only twist this time is the attempt to conflate russia-us geopolitical tensions with wikileaks involvement.

does the source of the information matter, if the information is legitimate? no. the dems live in fear of wikileaks and the endless dirt on hillary.

it's clear that russia does view assange as an asset, however-- the whole RT show a few years ago spelled that out for me. what is also clear is that unhappy facts are more effective propaganda than mere rhetoric. assange seems content to be a participant in russia's propaganda schemes, so long as he is actually releasing documents whose beef was agnostic to the context of geopolitical rivalry.

in other words: i want the dirt, too. i don't care if russia helps assange, we need all the help we can get against our own government at this point.

Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut' by admax88q on Monday October 17, 2016 @01:51PM (#12727366)
> in other words: i want the dirt, too.

100% agree.

I'm constantly amazed at how some ordinary citizens can be mad at Snowden or Assange for releasing information. Wouldn't you want to know? Even just for interest sake I like to know what government and politicians around the world are up to.

Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut' by meddlepal on Monday October 17, 2016 @02:15PM (#12727640)
I think many (most?) people are OK with the mantra "ignorance is bliss".

HN readership doesn't really represent the average citizen. So while you may want the info that likely doesn't hold for a lot of folks who really only care about a very minor set of immediate concerns (food, shelter, children).

Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut' by admax88q on Monday October 17, 2016 @05:15PM (#12729844)
I guess so, I just can't relate to that mentality.
Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut' by steveeq1 on Monday October 17, 2016 @03:50PM (#12728931)
I've actually asked people about this, and the prevailing attitude is "it puts lives in danger" or "sacrifices national security". While I don't agree with those opinions , the opposing viewpoint seems to view Snowden as a "snitch".
Re:Wikileaks: Julian Assange's internet access 'cut' by ionised on Wednesday October 19, 2016 @11:03AM (#12744403)
> he opposing viewpoint seems to view Snowden as a "snitch"

Children call eachother snitches. That's the level of discourse we're dealing with in these matters?