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Re:Millions of Men Are Missing from the Job Market by duaneb on Monday October 17, 2016 @09:58AM (#12725023)
Just a side note, hedonism is not the same as excess or consumerism: it is the maximization of pleasure over a lifetime. The experiences being sold are not the experiences we enjoy the most.
Re:Millions of Men Are Missing from the Job Market by VLM on Monday October 17, 2016 @10:42AM (#12725403)
As a practical matter its like debates between people who know what "begging the question" means vs people who use it incorrectly over and over until the definition changes.

Or like the old definition of "hacker" WRT computers.

The ship has sailed, begging the question now means leading someone to ask a question, hacker means two minutes hate against computer criminals, and hedonism means laughably pitiful time preference problem or what is the opposite of a wise plan for the future.

Re:Millions of Men Are Missing from the Job Market by secstate on Monday October 17, 2016 @10:09AM (#12725129)
An excellent point. Thanks for the clarification!

I would argue, however, that hedonism is a human philosophy that leads to pleasure maximization, which means consumerism and excess compliment it.

There are other ways to live your life, that seek to maximize the impact of your effort in other's lives, which do not work was well alongside consumerism.