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Re:How the Textsecure Protocol Works by theduckling1883 on Saturday October 15, 2016 @04:12PM (#12715482)
Nice overview. I only wish for there to be an implementation of the signal protocol that fits my needs. In WhatsApp and Allo there are concerns of ad companies using your metadata, and the Signal app is lackluster in the UX department and OWS's affinity with Google is rather disappointing also.
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Re:How the Textsecure Protocol Works by FabHK on Saturday October 15, 2016 @04:39PM (#12715559)
Wire seems fairly fully featured, open source, and claim to have a feasible "freemium" business model, i.e. later selling premium services on the platform.

They claim they use the Axolotl double ratchet, though Moxie/OWS claims Wire uses a variation of the protocol they don't recommend.

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Re:How the Textsecure Protocol Works by niftich on Saturday October 15, 2016 @06:20PM (#12715891)
If you're interested about this topic, I recommend the following readings previously posted on HN and drawing your own conclusions. They are listed in no particular order: [1][2][3][4]

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12148728

[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12361410

[3] https://hn.algolia.com/?query=%22wire%20does%20not%20use%22%...

[4] (long but enlightening read) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11725602

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Re:How the Textsecure Protocol Works by oakwhiz on Saturday October 15, 2016 @05:57PM (#12715829)
I would be interested to know exactly what it is about Wire that OWS doesn't seem to approve of
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Re:How the Textsecure Protocol Works by eatbitseveryday on Sunday October 16, 2016 @01:19AM (#12717101)
> Wire does not use Signal Protocol, they used some of our code to create a protocol of their own devising that we do not recommend.

4 days ago, no follow-ups to questions for details.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12688012#12690148

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Re:How the Textsecure Protocol Works by qznc on Saturday October 15, 2016 @06:01PM (#12715842)
It might just be that they did not look into it.
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Re:How the Textsecure Protocol Works by weinzierl on Saturday October 15, 2016 @04:22PM (#12715513)
> I only wish for there to be an implementation of the signal protocol that fits my needs.

...and which most of my friends used.

I'm OK with Signal's UX, but the problem is that I know exactly two people who use it too, everyone else is on WhatsApp. I mean: Writing this implementation would be hard, but still tremendously easier than getting enough traction to make it useful.

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Re:How the Textsecure Protocol Works by akvadrako on Saturday October 15, 2016 @04:51PM (#12715599)
People can change fairly quickly to a new platform and it doesn't have to be all or nothing. I stopped using WhatsApp and have convinced most of my friends to install Signal for communicating with me in place of SMS.

However it's hard to recommend because of the lack of features.

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Re:How the Textsecure Protocol Works by Arathorn on Saturday October 15, 2016 @05:19PM (#12715684)
It's beta currently, but we're trying to fill this gap in matrix.org with the Olm & Megolm ratchets as showcased in the web version of http://riot.im. Once it's implemented on mobile too (around the end of October) it will hopefully be a compelling option!
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