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Re:PHP 7 deployment at Dailymotion by babyrainbow on Friday October 14, 2016 @03:31AM (#12706604)
>You have a point though. I used this internet thing about 17 years ago, it was terrible. Only dial-up. SLOW! And don't talk to me about browsers. Netscape? Internet Explorer? Ugh. Forget it. I don't care what they might have changed, or replaced or completely removed, its always terrible.

We have only one Internet. But we have a lot of alternatives for Php to choose from.

If you have an Internet provider that gave you horrible service, will you give them another try even when your current provider is great in every way, just because the only good thing with your past provider was they gave you a connection in a day, instead of 3 days as with your current provider....

Re:PHP 7 deployment at Dailymotion by corobo on Friday October 14, 2016 @06:52AM (#12707248)
After 12 years? I wouldn't consider them to be the exact same as when I left them at least.
Re:PHP 7 deployment at Dailymotion by st3v3r on Friday October 14, 2016 @12:44PM (#12709282)
But what is the reason why I would look back at PHP, when there have been better alternatives available for quite a while now?
Re:PHP 7 deployment at Dailymotion by corobo on Friday October 14, 2016 @12:51PM (#12709355)
I'll be honest I don't really care what languages people use, not my place to convince you back. Just saying there's quite high chances PHP has changed at least a tiny bit over the past 12 years
Re:PHP 7 deployment at Dailymotion by Drdrdrq on Friday October 14, 2016 @02:28PM (#12710135)
I started using PHP when it was in version 3 and still use it occassionally. It has changed, but not considerably. The function naming is still a mess (backwards compatibility), arrays are completely inappropriate (naming them "bags" would be better), some decisions were so baffling (safe mode and magic quotes, superglobals, square brackets for arrays...) that I simply don't trust PHP to ever get better.

But there was a reason for experienced developers to use it - hosting. You could write a web app, ftp it somewhere and it would just work. There was no other platform aside from asp which would offer that. Nowadays this doesn't matter much, but 10 years ago it was great.

As a language though? Ugly. Just plain ugly.

Re:PHP 7 deployment at Dailymotion by krapp on Friday October 14, 2016 @02:34PM (#12710179)
I get safe mode, magic quotes and superglobals - but don't most languages use square brackets for arrays?

It certainly doesn't seem like a controversial thing to do.

Re:PHP 7 deployment at Dailymotion by stephenr on Friday October 14, 2016 @03:00PM (#12710328)
If php3 to php7 isn't a considerable change to you, I'm not sure any change to anything ever, would register as a change for you, would it?
Re:PHP 7 deployment at Dailymotion by user5994461 on Friday October 14, 2016 @02:53PM (#12710287)
Left C 12 years ago...Came back to C this year. That's still the exact same thing.