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Re:State of the OpenVMS Port to x86_64 [pdf] by dmm on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @12:07PM (#12694077)
I have a bad habit where instead of doing something relevant I play with old stuff I read about but didn't have access to as a kid.

VMS always interested me since I first read about it in the jargon file. I recently found an alphaserver on craigslist and I just requested an openvms hobbyist license so I could play with it.

An octane running irix is another expression of this problem.

Re:State of the OpenVMS Port to x86_64 [pdf] by laurentdc on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @12:11PM (#12694116)
Nothing wrong with that, you simply suffer from retrocomputing.

Careful about the power bill though. Large SGI stuff (e.g. Onyx) can go in the kilowatt range under load, and an AlphaServer idles at around 200W last time I checked.

IT was no green back then :)

Re:State of the OpenVMS Port to x86_64 [pdf] by krylon on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @02:19PM (#12695289)
> you simply suffer from retrocomputing

I love the way you phrase that! (I do suffer from that condition, too, in a way, if "suffer" is the word I want - but in my case it is select pieces of obsolete equipment sitting on my bookshelf. My favorite is an ancient IBM ISDN adapter (it still says 1TR6 instead of EDSS1 somewhere on the case) that once hooked up a mainframe to the outside world... ;-)

Re:State of the OpenVMS Port to x86_64 [pdf] by djsumdog on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @02:50PM (#12695519)
A friend of mine had an old Alpha years ago; was running NT4 on it. You'd watch the lights dim slightly when it turned on. I don't know the model, but the thing was huge.
Re:State of the OpenVMS Port to x86_64 [pdf] by trentnelson on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @01:12PM (#12694698)
My ES40 (4 x 667MHz 21264s) consumes 16A @ 110V. Most 110V US circuits are 10A.

I blew at least three fuses between that and the RX5670 (4 x Itanium), which consumed a similar amount of power @ 110V.

Re:State of the OpenVMS Port to x86_64 [pdf] by krylon on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @02:20PM (#12695295)
On the upside, depending on where you live, you probably save a lot of money on heating... ;-)
Re:State of the OpenVMS Port to x86_64 [pdf] by mtanski on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @04:42PM (#12696276)
Is there a EnergyGuide heating furnace efficiency score for the ES40?
Re:State of the OpenVMS Port to x86_64 [pdf] by lfowles on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @05:22PM (#12696516)
Resistance heating is pretty poor compared to heat pumps.
Re:State of the OpenVMS Port to x86_64 [pdf] by mtanski on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @08:31PM (#12697488)
That's the joke that I was trying to make.
Re:State of the OpenVMS Port to x86_64 [pdf] by krylon on Thursday October 13, 2016 @03:46PM (#12703481)
I think I remember reading or overhearing that Intel's chips somewhere in the Pentium 4 era were more efficient at converting electricity to heat than a typical hotplate. (Ratio-wise, at least.)
Re:State of the OpenVMS Port to x86_64 [pdf] by ams6110 on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @11:56PM (#12698311)
Household circuits are generally 15A or 20A AFAIK. Never seen one as low as 10.
Re:State of the OpenVMS Port to x86_64 [pdf] by trentnelson on Thursday October 13, 2016 @12:10AM (#12698356)
Hmmm. Maybe it was 15A. A 16A ES40 plus other stuff plugged in to the same circuit would have happily blown 15A under load, I guess.
Re:State of the OpenVMS Port to x86_64 [pdf] by planteen on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @09:22PM (#12697699)
> An octane running irix is another expression of this problem

I dreamed of having a SGI after watching Jurassic Park as a child. I also remember my dad bringing me home a VHS of SIGGRAPH circa 1995 and dreaming about time on a SGI. Time to check Craigslist, I think. :)

Re:State of the OpenVMS Port to x86_64 [pdf] by trentnelson on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @12:43PM (#12694393)
Re:State of the OpenVMS Port to x86_64 [pdf] by sedachv on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @04:54PM (#12696349)
AFAIK Theo de Raadt still has a bunch of racks of vintage hardware working as an OpenBSD build cluster in his basement (old photo circa 2009: http://www.openbsd.org/images/rack2009.jpg). VMS-related, OpenBSD discontinued the VAX port in the 6.0 release this year. Never touched a VAX but from what I read the OpenBSD 5.8 VAX port is a lot more recent and better maintained than the NetBSD port.
Re:State of the OpenVMS Port to x86_64 [pdf] by trentnelson on Thursday October 13, 2016 @12:10AM (#12698359)
We had very similar setups :-)
Re:State of the OpenVMS Port to x86_64 [pdf] by unixhero on Thursday October 13, 2016 @12:26AM (#12698409)
Then you will like this YouTube channel https://m.youtube.com/user/jpkiwigeek?
Re:State of the OpenVMS Port to x86_64 [pdf] by agumonkey on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @03:05PM (#12695625)
I just bought an 1989 HP48SX, hi.