Say Cheese: a snapshot of the massive DDoS attacks coming from IoT cameras

Re:Say Cheese: a snapshot of the massive DDoS attacks coming... by ubernostrum on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @04:38AM (#12691245)

All you have to do is hit a few people in the US. This is, ironically, one of the few cases where looking up IP address and ISP records works, since the issue here is not "some random person on my wifi pirated a movie", but rather "you owned this device which was part of a botnet".

Once a few Americans have been hit with ruinous lawsuits, the market for insecure devices will collapse, worldwide, overnight.

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Re:Say Cheese: a snapshot of the massive DDoS attacks coming... by pikzen on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @05:25AM (#12691463)

...Are you seriously advocating to cause financial ruin to many persons for buying a device they didn't know was vulnerable and being attacked by someone?

I don't even know what to say. Aside that you're clearly not targeting the right thing.

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Re:Say Cheese: a snapshot of the massive DDoS attacks coming... by ubernostrum on Wednesday October 12, 2016 @06:42AM (#12691757)

I'm saying that if someone seriously wants to end insecure IoT gadgets, there is nowhere else in the chain, other than the end consumer, to usefully target. Manufacturers are typically overseas in jurisdictions where the appropriate regulations won't reach, and retailers can be bypassed by online sales and delivery. So if you want to use the threat of lawsuit to discourage insecure devices, the end user who purchases the device is the only entity in the chain who can be targeted.

And, you have to admit, it'd be effective: the market would instantly collapse if device owners could be held liable for damage caused by their devices.

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