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Re:Reflections of an “Old” Programmer by ams6110 on Thursday October 06, 2016 @09:40PM (#12657559)
To me, it seems a bit like JSPs of 15 years ago, with all the logic in the presentation code, but I'm "old", so I assume I just don't "get it".

No, you get it. It's the people who get excited about stuff we tried and abandoned two decades ago that don't get it.

Re:Reflections of an “Old” Programmer by place1 on Friday October 07, 2016 @03:38AM (#12658872)
So i'm young. What makes JSPs bad, why aren't you using them anymore and what are you using instead?
Re:Reflections of an “Old” Programmer by bboreham on Friday October 07, 2016 @04:47AM (#12659090)
I think it's the "all the logic in the presentation code" that is emphasised as bad, and that is what you saw in typical JSP example code 15 years ago.

"Mainstream Java" then tried to sell EJBs as the answer, which was another world of pain.

Re:Reflections of an “Old” Programmer by clifanatic on Friday October 07, 2016 @02:28PM (#12662837)
Our (relatively young) "Angular" UI guy didn't know what a JSP was. Never heard of it.