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Re:Project Cybersyn: Socialism Through Cybernetics by wu-ikkyu on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @09:34AM (#12643615)
>Would you trust a computer to map out every dependency in the economy, down to the factory floor? Would you want to live in that world?

Computers already do that, for the most part. Computers also don't lie, humans do.

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20150209-the-network-that-ru...

Re:Project Cybersyn: Socialism Through Cybernetics by fixxer on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @09:45AM (#12643711)
Definitely an awesome link (thanks), but last I checked, Maersk was around 15% of global shipping. I would not conflate a company's logistics software (with a narrow focus on shipping) with pulling the strings on the broad-based economy.
Re:Project Cybersyn: Socialism Through Cybernetics by wu-ikkyu on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @11:02AM (#12644375)
Doesn't vertical integration increase efficiency, when properly executed? Integrating legacy computer systems almost invariably leads to greater efficiency.
Re:Project Cybersyn: Socialism Through Cybernetics by fixxer on Monday October 10, 2016 @11:00AM (#12677425)
Vertical integration is completely different from government-led centralization. Equivocation of the two is vulgar and misleading.
Re:Project Cybersyn: Socialism Through Cybernetics by wu-ikkyu on Thursday October 13, 2016 @01:54PM (#12702668)
You and alvarosm are tilting at windmills, no one made any such equivocation.
Re:Project Cybersyn: Socialism Through Cybernetics by alvarosm on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @10:47AM (#12644223)
The BBC will distort anything to prove their point: that socialism is great.
Re:Project Cybersyn: Socialism Through Cybernetics by detaro on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @11:01AM (#12644362)
How do you get any of that from the linked article? It's a factual description how a large company operates internally, nothing more. Is an article about how an automaker uses robots on their factory lines also promoting socialism? What do think is distorted in the article?
Re:Project Cybersyn: Socialism Through Cybernetics by alvarosm on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @11:10AM (#12644456)
Right. I guessed and I guessed wrong. I've seen them do it so many times that I jumped the gun.