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Re:Project Flogo – Open Source Framework for IoT Integration by craigcabrey on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @01:47AM (#12641791)
>Internal Use Only License Grant. TIBCO hereby grants you a limited, non‐transferable, non‐exclusive license to use the software solely for your internal business purposes.

"open source"

Re:Project Flogo – Open Source Framework for IoT Integration by reitanqild on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @08:39AM (#12643260)
Seconded. Don't let them advertise it as open source when it is just shareware with readable source.

(Yes, I understand this might be "open source" for some definition of "open" but it is now what we talk about when we mean open source, and I think that holds true both for MIT/BSD/ASL loves such as myself as well as for the (A|L)GPL crowd.

Re:Project Flogo – Open Source Framework for IoT Integration by reitanqild on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @03:28PM (#12646975)
See also no_protocol s link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12643676

It seems some of this is actually opensource.

Re:Project Flogo – Open Source Framework for IoT Integration by no_protocol on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @02:06AM (#12641845)
I want to point out that this license applies only to the base project, which only contains some documentation and samples.

If you look at flogo-cli or one of the other linked projects, the license appears to grant more rights. It looks like it's in the BSD-style but I can't be bothered to scroll the long lines to read the whole thing.

Re:Project Flogo – Open Source Framework for IoT Integration by reitanqild on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @08:40AM (#12643269)
Where is that license?
Re:Project Flogo – Open Source Framework for IoT Integration by no_protocol on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @09:41AM (#12643676)
https://github.com/TIBCOSoftware/flogo-cli/blob/master/TIBCO...

And on each of the other projects linked from the TIBCOSoftware/flogo README

Re:Project Flogo – Open Source Framework for IoT Integration by jlgaddis on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @01:52AM (#12641812)
open source != free software
Re:Project Flogo – Open Source Framework for IoT Integration by no_protocol on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @02:02AM (#12641832)
Pedants would probably agree that this is a true statement, but it is also not relevant. The project itself claims it is open source and the parent claims it isn't. No one mentioned the free software movement.

Parent is pointing out that the license lacks some provisions commonly required to be considered "open source" -- a better term for what is presented might be "disclosed source" or "visible source."

Defining open source can be a point of contention, but the license in question is pretty far away from most accepted definitions. There's not even a right to modify the code. Note that this license appears to be only on the base project that seems to contain nothing beyond documentation and samples.

Re:Project Flogo – Open Source Framework for IoT Integration by craigcabrey on Wednesday October 05, 2016 @01:59AM (#12641825)
You're absolutely right, of course. But I never implied it was. I highly doubt this would be an OSI approved license.

https://opensource.org/faq#unlisted-licenses