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Re:Why's that company so big? I could do that in a weekend by hinkley on Monday October 03, 2016 @03:47PM (#12630696)
As an inexperienced engineer I did the same thing. My punishment for my hubris was to have bizdevs who felt the same way about us.

The weird thing is though, I still actively encourage new devs to make this mistake in certain circumstances. For one thing, telling them no isn't going to help, we have no shared context, and the math of their productivity versus mine works against me spending too much time convincing them.

If the problem has a logistical or bureaucratic component, once in a while the stars align and they manage to pull off something the department has been trying to do for years but always runs into a wall. Some people in an organization will assume something is true if they hear it from enough independent parties. I know if three people ask me the same question about a block of our code, I start looking at that code suspiciously. Clearly something is wrong with it. Sending the 5th guy to ask some IT guy or product manager he same question, especially in the way a new person tends to formulate questions, sometimes knocks the cobwebs off and the person decides to change their behavior or volunteer to do something they have resisted doing before.

A week of junior dev time for a 5% chance to clear out a bag of tech debt is a good investment IMO. And if it doesn't work they learn something about why things are the way they are.

I had a senior coworker who used to laugh and say "You're new here aren't you?" and I started giving him grief for doing it. Sometimes the new guy is the only one who can get things changed.

Re:Why's that company so big? I could do that in a weekend by dancek on Monday October 03, 2016 @04:13PM (#12630919)
Great insight there.

Additionally, the new guy will be much happier when he's treated the way you suggest. I know I would have appreciated that instead of the bs I got at my first proper job in the beginning.

Re:Why's that company so big? I could do that in a weekend by bonniemuffin on Tuesday October 04, 2016 @12:45AM (#12633394)
I always try to point out to the junior folks when a thing is janky and broken for "historical" reasons rather than technical reasons, in the hope that their fresh eyes on the problem will find a better solution. Sometimes we're still just coasting on the best solution we could come up with 2 years ago, and in those cases it's likely that we could do better if we re-think the problem from scratch.