Re:WikiLeaks plans to post video showing US massacre of Afgh...
by amichail on Tuesday April 13, 2010 @10:33AM
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What's wrong with using non-lethal weapons when one side has an overwhelming advantage?
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Re:WikiLeaks plans to post video showing US massacre of Afgh...
by koepked on Tuesday April 13, 2010 @10:57AM
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I think it's possible that the widespread use of non-lethal weapons could result in greater attrocities than the use of lethal weapons on the macro-level. It may not always be aparent, but in general, there is human restraint against killing other humans. A group of people would have to do, or at least be pegged with doing, something fairly high on the "bad scale" to justify use of lethal force. I suspect the threshold for beating them into submission with shotgun fired beanbags, high-pressured water, etc. would be much lower. At the level of an individual life, non-lethal would obviously be better. But at the level of one group of people trying to exert their will over another, I think non-lethal weapons would lead to more of that exertion, because it would be less difficult to justify.
Re:WikiLeaks plans to post video showing US massacre of Afgh...
by nfnaaron on Tuesday April 13, 2010 @11:40AM
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Tasers.
Re:WikiLeaks plans to post video showing US massacre of Afgh...
by pbhjpbhj on Tuesday April 13, 2010 @11:08AM
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When an insurgent points a RPG at my Humvee I should fire [far less lethal] rubber bullets back because I have better air support?
Re:WikiLeaks plans to post video showing US massacre of Afgh...
by amichail on Tuesday April 13, 2010 @11:35AM
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Generally speaking, it is better to disable weapons rather than kill people in war.
If there is a way to disable RPGs from a distance, then it should be used if there is time.
Re:WikiLeaks plans to post video showing US massacre of Afgh...
by nick-dap on Tuesday April 13, 2010 @12:16PM
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I don't think you can SSH into a soviet era weapon.
This idea that war can be carried out "safely" is detached from reality. We say that our technology gives us a moral advantage in warfare. "We can hit just the right targets, and minimize collateral damage." It will never be.
WikiLeaks presentation of the first video was disingenuous, but I don't care as long as the video enters the public domain. I want to be able to pull up videos that show how worthless human life is on the battlefield. I have friends in the military and they need an emotional shell to do their job. The public, however, needs to start thinking about war not as a pissing match with browner countries, but as a serious issue.
Re:WikiLeaks plans to post video showing US massacre of Afgh...
by CWuestefeld on Tuesday April 13, 2010 @11:25AM
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I can't find a reference now, but I've read in the past that the 5.56mm round -- the ammunition used in M-16s, for example -- is designed with a goal of (among other things) seriously wounding the target rather than killing. This isn't for humane purposes, but because putting a soldier into the infirmary with medical staff necessary to support him poses a greater cost to the enemy than simply killing him.