Lockheed has one in Fort Worth. Best I can tell they want to run aerodynamics simulations on it.

I actually interviewed for a field engineer position with D-Wave embedded at Lockheed in Fort Worth. Apparently I wasn't smart enough for them because they went radio silent after the phone interview.

> Best I can tell they want to run aerodynamics simulations on it.

I'm a CFD guy and I have absolutely no clue how anyone expects to get any aerodynamics simulation results out of that with anything resembling usefulness.

Really, even a super-simple 2D wing profile simulation that you can run in milliseconds even in javascript will require data storage that's absolutely massive compared to 2000 qubits.

Also CFD guy, completely agree with the above.

Quantum computers have several algorithms for various applications, such ashort shors for factorization. Not aware of any algos for CFD.

Perhaps a rarefied gas dynamics, bolts man distribution sort of application could be created? At least in some cases quantum mechanical effects are significant...

They want to run anything on it, not just aerodynamics simulations. All the various sites across the US are encouraged to think of ways to use it and submit jobs remotely, whether its for aero, radar, missiles, etc

Yeah, but I got the impression that the aero sims were viewed as the low-hanging fruit to demonstrate that the computer could actually do things better than traditional machines.

Are you sure it's actually at Fort Worth? I know that they bought the one that's that's at USC's Information Sciences Institute, but I hadn't heard that the bought another one. As far as I know they've just paid for that one to be upgraded a couple times.

The one at USC definitely isn't being used for anything past the research level.

Yes. D-Wave approached me partly because I was already in Dallas and they needed someone on-site in Fort Worth to support Lockheed.

Nope, D-Wave is still sponsoring research to find problems where the D-Wave beats consumer PCs (I think the iPad Pro might actually be competitive with it now).

Apple should start marketing the pro as "faster than a quantum computer."

I wish Apple would troll like that.

It basically performs the same function as traditional combinatoric optimization algorithms, e.g. simulated annealing and evolutionary optimization, but it does a much much much better job at it since it can test the superposition of the entire search space instead of picking at points here and there.

This is not true. It can not test the superposition of the entire search space - this would require an actual quantum computer. (Or maybe I misunderstood your ELI5 explanation, in which case I am sorry)

I'm not sure where you're getting your information: everyone in this thread seems to be parroting the same popsci headline that it's not a "real" quantum computer, but that completely misses the point. Regardless of whether or not it's a general purpose computing machine with programmable logic, it can still perform mathematical optimization of an objective function over a superposition of bits. Saying that it's not quantum because it's not general purpose is a complete distortion of the facts.

Here is my claim in precise terms: superposition of all combinatorial states is a very non-classical state. Preparing such a state is still an active area of research, and nobody has yet made one in a usable fashion. The D-wave device does not have a superposition of states, rather it is tracking a single classical state as far as I know. No need for harsh language in your response.

Edit: removed an incorrect remark about entanglement.

>The D-wave device does not have a superposition of states, rather it is tracking a single classical state

I'm going to need a citation on that.

Even if only some small fraction of the qubits in the 2^2000 search space are fully entangled, that's still a massive improvement over the current state of the art using conventional computers because of how absolutely huge the space is.

Not if the entanglement is partitioned into very small groups of qubits. That's the only thing we have even circumstantial evidence of, and it doesn't appear to gain us much over classical computers. This is especially bad for the "it'll be better with more qubits" hypothesis D-Wave is chasing, since everything we know about quantum control suggests that if you can't solve this problem with a 1000-qubit system, doing it with a 2000-qubit system is going to be even harder.

We're still waiting for one problem, no matter how arbitrary, where the D-Wave beats basic consumer computers, let alone a few million dollars worth of computing power. And if D-Wave (or anyone else) had found one for their 2000-qubit computer, it would be in this press release. So no, any gain in performance form the D-Wave hardware is still in the "theoretical but without any theoretical backing" stage.

>We're still waiting for one problem, no matter how arbitrary, where the D-Wave beats basic consumer computers

This is like saying that NASA has never gone to space, because there is not ONE thing they have EVER done in space, no matter how arbitrary, (including going to the moon) that I care about more than literature.

Let's look at the parts of my analogy:

NASA has not gone to space BECAUSE it is not better than something irrelevant.

DWAVE does not have a quantum computer BECAUSE it is not better than something irrelevant.

What on Earth do classical computers have to do with whether DWAVE is using quantum effects?

This is very irrelevant.

I can't believe so many people use this to "prove" that it's not a quantum computer. This is a complete and utter non sequitur.

This is very basic logic. It's like saying that until the minute a machine beat Kasparov at chess, computers couldn't play chess.

In a very narrow sense of cheating, sure, a computer could fake playing chess if a person is hidden and playing for the computer. Maybe the comouter isn't even powered on. Likewise, in a narrow sense a classical computer could be hidden in the DWAVE's cabinet and producing the output with a python script. Maybe the DWAVE isn't even powered on. (and has a cheater inside, a macbook.)

But short of this scenario it is a completely inappropriate point to make. It doesn't say anything about how dwave works.

-> Are you accusing them of not even powering it on and hiding a macbook in the case, which produces all its results? (if not, how is your contention different.)

> I can't believe so many people use this to "prove" that it's not a quantum computer. This is a complete and utter non sequitur.

That's not why I'm saying it's probably not a quantum computer. It's not a quantum computer because in depth analysis of its behavior has consistently shown that above the ~20 qubit scale it's better modeled by a classical explanation than a quantum one. We only really have evidence of entanglement at the 8 qubit level[1] so far.

The fact that the processing power is abysmal just makes the hype even more ridiculous. The point of that fact is that it's not like the EmDrive, where it's doing something we can't yet explain under the assumption that nothing interesting is going on. If it weren't for the fact we've looked inside, it could be running a basic Intel CPU for all we know. There's no smoke at any level, so it's nonsensical to give D-Wave a pass and think they've got some fire.

[1]: https://arxiv.org/abs/1506.03539

Well the burden to prove they've made a quantum computer is on them, no?

But when you raise the bar to "better than a desktop PC" it is like going from "well the burden is on chess computers to prove their machine really plays chess" to "the burden is on chess computers to prove they're better than humans (and it's not real until they do.)". That is too high a bar.

My only objection is on this suggestion - that they have to find something it's already better at than a desktop PC (with literally billions of transistors).

I quoted the part I objected to.

But scaling laws should predict that you should need many, many more transistors than qubits to beat a gate quantum computer. For an adiabatic quantum computer something similar should hold.

Whether or not you agree that D-wave has proper superposition and is properly performing quantum annealing your original statement was different from this one. You wrote: "it can test the superposition of the entire search space instead of picking at points here and there." That's similar to common misconceptions on how quantum computers work which might attract some of your downvotes, but more importantly you're also misrepresenting why quantum annealing is faster than thermal annealing.

I'm parroting the information I've gotten from hearing people who work with the D-Wave describe their research, reading their papers, and friends who work in the area. So no, I didn't just read a popsci headline that tickled my contrarian bone.

> Saying that it's not quantum because it's not general purpose is a complete distortion of the facts.

Being not-general-purpose means it's not a computer. If it's not a computer, it can't be a quantum computer.

As far as I can tell, D-wave's machines do appear to use quantum effects, but that doesn't make them quantum computers. They're quantum calculators.

A non-general quantum computer could still be considered to be a "quantum computer" in the way that physicists use the term. We'd definitely consider a computer that could "only" run Shor's algorithm to be one, so that's not a reason to write off the D-Wave.