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Re:Not Just Any Old Geek by sangnoir on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @02:34PM (#12600102)
> Pretending that just because you're old you hold some magical advantage doesn't fly

Experience is not magic, it is not directly a function of age but of duration in the industry. I'm not even tyat old yet, but my experience (aka larger training set) so far allows me to pattern-match/foresee potential disasters way before they appear on radars of more junior devs: and this goes for technology, people and processes.

> No one hires 60 year old coal miners either when there are 20 year olds available

That's because mining coal is physically exerting. I would hire a 60 year old boilermaker before any 20 year old since I don't want things to go boom.

Edit:

> just because they are young, it doesn't mean they can't get shit done.

With experience, you know which shit not to do

Re:Not Just Any Old Geek by employee8000 on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @04:10PM (#12600902)
You're comparing great old people with shitty young people. I know plenty of very shitty old people and a lot of great young people that would invalidate what you said above. And in my experience there aren't very many great old people that are current with technology, that can code quickly, etc. most just want to keep doing what they're doing and earn a paycheck which is fine but then they shouldn't complain when they get replaced by younger faster models.
Re:Not Just Any Old Geek by sangnoir on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @05:47PM (#12601614)
You might have misunderstood me. My point is experience is a great asset to any developer, young or old.

> And in my experience there aren't very many great old people that are current with technology, that can code quickly, etc.

That might mean that the great old people are either not great at these things despite their efforts (which I believe is your opinion), OR it could mean the old people optimize for the things you did not list, and don't place too a lot of value on "coding quickly", for example.

> And in my experience there aren't very many great old people that are current with technology

There older I get, the more I realize there is more to life than work. I mean, I love technology, web development particularly (because the web is awesome for humanity), I really do enjoy it. However, I can make better, more fulfilling use of (some of) my weekends and evenings than staring at my laptop, rewriting an app in LatestHypeJS. Is there any other industry that requires much running just to stay in one place?

Bear in mind the "younger faster models" won't stay young forever.