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Re:Not Just Any Old Geek by mgkimsal on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @08:39AM (#12597164)
> We can actually Get Stuff Done, which at the end of the day is what really counts

It's harder for me to "get stuff done" when then "stuff" is bullshit. There are times when what's being asked for is wrong (stealing code/images/whatever), or a wrong solution to the problem. "Right/Wrong" can be subjective, so I shy away from making those snap judgements until I know more about why something is being asked for, but after a while, you tend to develop a 6th sense for crazy.

A 23 year old in their first job will (generally) just plug away at whatever's given them. Older folks generally won't deal as well with bullshit work.

Re:Not Just Any Old Geek by draven on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @11:59AM (#12598742)
> It's harder for me to "get stuff done" when then "stuff" is bullshit

Same here, I guess tolerance to bullshit diminishes with age. Perhaps it has to do with experience. I cringe when asked to do something that will increase technical debt because I can see what it will be like repaying that debt in the future. Younger me could not see that far.

Re:Not Just Any Old Geek by JustSomeNobody on Thursday September 29, 2016 @07:46AM (#12604532)
> A 23 year old in their first job will (generally) just plug away at whatever's given them. Older folks generally won't deal as well with bullshit work.

On the contrary, I've seen far too many 20 somethings that will refuse to do anything that isn't new development.

Re:Not Just Any Old Geek by mgkimsal on Thursday September 29, 2016 @09:09AM (#12604918)
I've seen a bit of that too, but perhaps not as much as you.

I've seen loads of folks that don't know how to work with older code (and have been guilty of that myself).

Worked on a project recently where some bit of PHP was causing trouble. The answer pushed was "just build it in node!". This was pushed by people who don't know PHP, and don't know what problem was actually occurring, but hey - "move to node!" can't ever have a downside, can it? "I'm not sure what problem I'm solving, but it'll be in nodejs, so everything will be great" seems to be a common trend over the last couple of years (at least in some of the circles I travel in).

Re:Not Just Any Old Geek by bbarn on Wednesday September 28, 2016 @01:57PM (#12599775)
I see that as a selling point to being more experienced. Intolerance for bullshit is a good trait in many a job.
Re:Not Just Any Old Geek by mgkimsal on Thursday September 29, 2016 @09:07AM (#12604899)
It really depends on the politics of the office/team/company you're working with. It can either be seen as a huge plus, or a huge minus.