TTIP trade deal could be re-launched under a different name, say EU ministers

Re:TTIP trade deal could be re-launched under a different na... by misnome on Monday September 26, 2016 @11:17AM (#12582524)

> The South seceded because they were convinced Lincoln would work to end slavery

In what way is "work to end slavery" not completely identical, but just different words, to "work towards abolition".

You may think you are just arguing pedantically, but this exact language is leading people to believe that the civil war had nothing to do with slavery. Just because it hadn't yet happened does not mean it can be an important, or even primary motivator.

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Re:TTIP trade deal could be re-launched under a different na... by jeff_petersen on Monday September 26, 2016 @06:24PM (#12586126)

Here's what you said:

> The war happened overwhelmingly _because_ slavery was going to be abolished.

That's not the same as "working toward abolition."

> this exact language is leading people to believe that the civil war had nothing to do with slavery

[citation needed]

> Just because it hadn't yet happened does not mean it can be an important, or even primary motivator.

I said that a desire to keep the institution of slavery was the primary motivation. That is not the same as them reacting to abolition, which would violate causality.

Please try to be more civil rather than slinging around insults and accusations.

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