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Re:Bay Area wages soaring but still can’t keep up with housi... by runamok on Sunday September 25, 2016 @07:41PM (#12578088)
By conventional standards a couple making 300k should have a loan of about 3x that income. So 900k. Perhaps that is the case coming in with an existing property but do they really think they will have 30 years of prosperity and one parent won't take some time off to raise their kids? I can't help but assume many people are going to lose their everything come the next recession...
Re:Bay Area wages soaring but still can’t keep up with housi... by usaar333 on Monday September 26, 2016 @02:33AM (#12579694)
Prior property isn't needed and I'm not sure where the 3x rule comes from. Non-housing costs need not scale linearly with income.

$300,000 a year is $190,000 post-tax.

Assuming 20% down, a $1.7M home would cost somewhere in the range of $8,000 a month after factoring in the mortgage income tax deduction.

That leaves $94,000 a year disposable, which is a lot anywhere. This family can readily get a full-time nanny for the early children years, ensuring no parent needs to take time off.

Re:Bay Area wages soaring but still can’t keep up with housi... by runamok on Monday September 26, 2016 @03:24PM (#12584793)
Right. Until one person gets laid off, has a car accident, wants a divorce, etc. 8000 in 12 months is 96000 so now one salary goes only to the mortgage...

Now make those salaries for the next 30 years.

Your point is valid in that as you make more money more of it can go to housing because a smaller portion is required for things like food, clothing, gas, transportation, etc.

3x gross income was the conventional rule of thumb but truthfully that was back when interest rates were 7% or so. However, just because you can afford something doesn't mean you should.

Re:Bay Area wages soaring but still can’t keep up with housi... by dcosson on Monday September 26, 2016 @01:39AM (#12579480)
That rule of thumb was probably intended for more "middle class" wages though, no? Above a certain level your other basic costs like food, clothing, travel (especially if you're having kids and can't do much traveling or fine dining) don't have to increase with your income so you can afford to spend a higher percentage of your pay on housing if you want/need to.