Re:Why is San Francisco trying to strangle its golden goose?
by tptacek on Saturday September 24, 2016 @03:51PM
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An evening job at a telemarketing call center is also a way for an individual to provide services with their underutilized resources. But we have no trouble recognizing that as a "job", with an "employer", and all the attendant obligations.
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Re:Why is San Francisco trying to strangle its golden goose?
by stickfigure on Saturday September 24, 2016 @04:04PM
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If the telemarketing "job" was start/stop-when-you-want, get-paid-by-the-minute, then we would certainly have trouble recognizing this as an employer/employee relationship. Especially if it was being done from home using your own phone.
Re:Why is San Francisco trying to strangle its golden goose?
by jimmywanger on Saturday September 24, 2016 @05:19PM
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See liveops. http://www.liveops.com/
They've already done this. And from their careers page (http://www.liveops.com/company/careers-jobs) they are characterizing their operators as independent contractors, if I am reading the verbiage correctly.
(Source, I interviewed there and received an offer which I declined)
Re:Why is San Francisco trying to strangle its golden goose?
by tptacek on Saturday September 24, 2016 @04:08PM
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Uber didn't invent sporadic hours: that's a "feature" we (rightly) criticize in retail businesses that use software to rotate staff through multiple stores on bizarre, untenable schedules. Once again, the only thing I can see that's getting Uber a free pass is that they stuck a consumer app into the mix.
Re:Why is San Francisco trying to strangle its golden goose?
by prostoalex on Sunday September 25, 2016 @12:03AM
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Retail schedule is controlled by the employer. Gig economy schedule is controlled by the employee.
Re:Why is San Francisco trying to strangle its golden goose?
by flyinglizard on Saturday September 24, 2016 @06:25PM
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But Uber drivers are not rotated. They are free to work when and where they wish.
Re:Why is San Francisco trying to strangle its golden goose?
by tptacek on Saturday September 24, 2016 @07:07PM
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So? This is the hair we're down to splitting?
Re:Why is San Francisco trying to strangle its golden goose?
by stickfigure on Sunday September 25, 2016 @09:14PM
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This is hardly a hair. This is one of the several factors that the IRS explicitly tells us determines the difference between an employee and independent contractor. There's a list.