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A comment on TTIP trade deal could be re-launched under a different name, say EU ministers. Parent comment

Re:TTIP trade deal could be re-launched under a different na... by adimitrov on Saturday September 24, 2016 @07:16AM (#12570477)
That's the big problem with TTIP: those who negotiated it (on the EU side at least) weren't elected representatives. In fact, elected representatives only very recently received very limited access to the negotiation documents themselves. In Germany, access was granted to members of parliament only January this year. Even so, they weren't even allowed to carry electronic devices or pen-and-paper notebooks.

This is why TTIP, no matter the content, is undemocratic. As is CETA.

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Re:TTIP trade deal could be re-launched under a different na... by yoplait_ on Saturday September 24, 2016 @08:13AM (#12570627)
Elected representatives could not negotiate the deal themselves because it is way too technical. So the actual negotiators were given a mandate by the elected representatives. Elected representatives then get to decide whether they will vote for the deal. TTIP is dead because it's become clear the deal will not get approval from all representatives, in part because of public disapproval. In conclusion, TTIP _is_ democratic.
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Re:TTIP trade deal could be re-launched under a different na... by danieltillett on Saturday September 24, 2016 @08:32AM (#12570688)
If the deal is too technical to negotiate how can the elected representative possibly decide if they should vote for it as they by definition can't understand it?
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Re:TTIP trade deal could be re-launched under a different na... by damptowel on Saturday September 24, 2016 @08:45AM (#12570720)
> Elected representatives could not negotiate the deal themselves because it is way too technical.

It really isn't ...

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Re:TTIP trade deal could be re-launched under a different na... by witty_username on Saturday September 24, 2016 @02:22PM (#12571939)
Could you elaborate?
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Re:TTIP trade deal could be re-launched under a different na... by dash2 on Saturday September 24, 2016 @07:36AM (#12570517)
Fair point, but then surely it is the EU that is undemocratic rather than TTIP.
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