Re:Facebook Overestimated Key Video Metric for Two Years
by ma2rten on Thursday September 22, 2016 @10:04PM
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I thought that this metric is supposed to measure the quality of the views that the advertiser is paying for. In that case maybe advertisers shouldn't pay for views under 3 seconds, but if they do it should count towards the average.
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Re:Facebook Overestimated Key Video Metric for Two Years
by jdoliner on Thursday September 22, 2016 @10:53PM
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Based on the stat in the article about it resulting in 60% to 80% difference in total viewing time, I think they were probably reporting total views including views under 3 seconds and reporting avg view length discounting views under 3 seconds. This results in a pretty misleading viewing time. Still quite possibly a mistake, but I can see why advertisers would be pissed.
Re:Facebook Overestimated Key Video Metric for Two Years
by honkhonkpants on Thursday September 22, 2016 @11:26PM
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Isn't it the advertisers' job to measure the quality of the channel? Or does this kind of advertising have an intangible outcome like brand awareness?
Re:Facebook Overestimated Key Video Metric for Two Years
by teen on Friday September 23, 2016 @01:17AM
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How do you measure video watched on their platform? You can't since they host the video.
Re:Facebook Overestimated Key Video Metric for Two Years
by aianus on Friday September 23, 2016 @01:28AM
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You measure the change in your sales while the campaign is active. That's the only relevant metric anyways.
Re:Facebook Overestimated Key Video Metric for Two Years
by ethanbond on Friday September 23, 2016 @02:26AM
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Which is affected by about a billion other metrics, like if it's sunny out. Attribution is the fundamental problem of advertising, and getting closer to solving it is Google and Facebook's value proposition. This indicates that they are not nearly as helpful in solving it as they have been claiming since they've been providing bad inputs for their customers to do analysis.
Re:Facebook Overestimated Key Video Metric for Two Years
by aianus on Friday September 23, 2016 @08:32AM
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In order for this to be a real issue, customers must be incapable of attributing sales to advertising campaigns but somehow capable of attributing them to seconds of video displayed. Doesn't make sense.
Re:Facebook Overestimated Key Video Metric for Two Years
by ethanbond on Friday September 23, 2016 @08:36AM
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Yes it does, because getting accurate numbers from Facebook is a key part to calculating either of those things. You definitely can't do it with certainty, but you would hope the entity you're paying to record the data necessary to get as close to possible would in fact be an accurate source of said data.
Re:Facebook Overestimated Key Video Metric for Two Years
by aianus on Friday September 23, 2016 @08:56AM
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If you are incapable of measuring the overall ROI of, say, a YouTube campaign vs. a Facebook campaign, then you are also certainly going to be incapable of determining the ROI of an X second average viewing time on Facebook vs. a Y second average viewing time on YouTube.
Therefore both the true and reported values of X are completely irrelevant because you are incapable of using them.
Please explain how the above reasoning is incorrect.
Re:Facebook Overestimated Key Video Metric for Two Years
by ethanbond on Friday September 23, 2016 @09:27AM
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Detecting differences between several Facebook campaigns?
Re:Facebook Overestimated Key Video Metric for Two Years
by aianus on Friday September 23, 2016 @09:39AM
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They would both be misrepresented the same way in that case and would remain comparable.
Re:Facebook Overestimated Key Video Metric for Two Years
by pbhjpbhj on Friday September 23, 2016 @09:05AM
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That works for impulse buys online I expect; doesn't seem useful beyond that. If you're running a one day festival you can have fantastic ad response - but if it rains the visitor figures are rubbish.
That's when you rely on metrics like bounce/view period to decide if your advertising worked.