Re:Researchers quantum teleport particle of light six kilome...
by duaneb on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @04:23PM
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Actually, I find it very intuitive that reality is just information. It's much easier than setting it apart as ineffable.
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Re:Researchers quantum teleport particle of light six kilome...
by eternalban on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @04:33PM
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That's not what Bohr said. He said we can't know -- per Bell "have no right to know" -- what is "[objective] reality" [at the atomic scale].
I am personally not comfortable with using 'information'. I think Bohm's formulation "phenomena" is more appropriate. Note that, for example, the manifestation of wave/particle duality is an actual physical phenomena. The 'information' bit is our observation of this phenomena.
And in case the question is still on the table as to are these distinctions merely a matter of philosophical taste or aesthetics?, from same source cited:
Alain Aspect
At the time of Einstein and Bohr it was just a theoretical
discussion. You could endorse either Einstein's position or
Bohr's position, and it was just a matter of taste.
And then there was the great discovery by John Bell in '65 that
it is not only a matter of taste, because according to the
position you have at the subatomic point, you have predictions
which are not the same.
If you follow Einstein you have a certain type of predictions
-- that is to say you have results that are in agreement with
what is called the Bell's inequalities -- and if you follow
Bohr's position you have another type of prediction which are
in contradiction, in opposition, with Bell's inequalities.
Aspect at this point had conducted a series of EPR experiments that proved that the Einstein line of reasoning was in contradiction with the obtained experimental results.
Re:Researchers quantum teleport particle of light six kilome...
by duaneb on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @06:03PM
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Well, I'd put "can't know" squarely in the ineffable.
But yes, I think phenomena are the atomic building blocks of science. The logical positivists at least got that right.
Re:Researchers quantum teleport particle of light six kilome...
by wamatt on Wednesday September 21, 2016 @07:56PM
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> I think phenomena are the atomic building blocks of science
Lacking context, this could seem somewhat opaque.
Would you mind clarifying which definition of "phenomenon" you are intending to convey? (eg Kantian or otherwise)