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Re:This is what happens when you let Java people write apps ... by matrix on Friday April 09, 2010 @08:26AM (#1252468)
It's quite possible to create responsive Java desktop apps. It's just that it takes an experienced Swing developer who has learned all the hard lessons about building that type of app.

That said, yes, many Java developers write bad code, but so do developers who write in other languages. Java just gets a higher profile because unfortunately the Java community has a tradition of writing libraries and APIs that sacrifice usability for flexibility (that's the kindest way I can put it, anyway).

Slightly off-topic: Am I the only one who feels that Eclipse is the IDE equivalent of a hair shirt? I find its UI sluggish, its insistence on imposing its ideas about project management on you irritating, and to be generally overcomplicated. To me, NetBeans, former versions of IntelliJ, and VS are much nicer products (mind you, half the time I still just use an text editor though).

Re:This is what happens when you let Java people write apps ... by brazzy on Friday April 09, 2010 @09:03AM (#1252556)
Regarding IDEs, after using eclipse for years, I recently tried Netbeans and found its UI sluggish, its ideas about project management on you irritating, and its configurability sorely lacking...
Re:This is what happens when you let Java people write apps ... by joe24pack on Friday April 09, 2010 @09:49AM (#1252665)
In my experience when working with Java the old Borland JBuilder worked well and was reasonably responsive, Eclipse was a pig no matter how I tweaked it, Netbeans kept me happy.