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Re:Distressed ravens show empathy by jameslk on Sunday September 18, 2016 @03:29AM (#12524318)
I have a strange love for birds. People often laugh at the endearment I have for birds like they have for dogs or cats. But when asked why I like birds so much, I can answer this very succinctly: there is very few other species that can fly, walk or swim all at once like some birds can. Nor a group of species so diverse, colorful, capable and intelligent. With such an interesting evolution sharing an ancestry with the once terrifying dinosaurs that roamed the world now so commonplace and taken for granted.

Just the intelligence of birds alone is fascinating with birds that can learn human speech and understand its context, solve puzzles, solve puzzles in teams, understand the concept of self, learn human faces, give gifts, have theory of mind, perform ritual and now show empathy. All packed into a tiny "bird brain." They are truly marvelous creatures.

Re:Distressed ravens show empathy by mirimir on Sunday September 18, 2016 @06:46AM (#12524775)
I'm fascinated by birds. It's not that I'm a lister, but I'm always aware of birds around me, from their vocalizations. The stereotype of "bird watchers" with their binoculars and scopes is misleading. Mostly you identify birds by sound.

Anyway, avian evolution has diverged enough from our line that birds are virtually aliens. Compared to other primates, and other smart mammals, I mean. Also rather alien are spiders, octopus, and colonial insects.

Re:Distressed ravens show empathy by spacehome on Sunday September 18, 2016 @05:00AM (#12524502)
All that, and they're delicious, too.
Re:Distressed ravens show empathy by nier on Sunday September 18, 2016 @05:22AM (#12524563)
Your comment reminds me of a story in a book called Shantaram. Guy feeds a mouse visiting his cell every now and then. Before being relocated this prisoner tells the new inmate to take good care of Mickey. Next thing he knows, his little friend is on display with two pencils piercing his body. Crucified.
Re:Distressed ravens show empathy by charlesdm on Sunday September 18, 2016 @10:07AM (#12525348)
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Re:Distressed ravens show empathy by 32bitkid on Sunday September 18, 2016 @07:50AM (#12524907)
Amusing, albeit predictable, that a article about another species sharing the construct of empathy would elicit such a veceral demonstration of its absence. I wonder if we'll ever observe another species that enjoys sarcasm and irony as much as we do.
Re:Distressed ravens show empathy by spacehome on Sunday September 18, 2016 @04:13PM (#12527001)
Quite. How droll.
Re:Distressed ravens show empathy by mirimir on Sunday September 18, 2016 @06:48AM (#12524784)
Re:Distressed ravens show empathy by cmrdporcupine on Sunday September 18, 2016 @08:03AM (#12524945)
Oh man I miss Suck.com