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Re:Faking your death by pjc50 on Friday September 16, 2016 @11:45AM (#12514781)
A variant of this that I heard used to be a problem in India: have someone else declared dead. It can be remarkably hard to fix the problems created in a bureaucracy when that happens.

http://newsok.com/article/3044137

Re:Faking your death by Bartweiss on Friday September 16, 2016 @12:36PM (#12515232)
This came up in Ohio, with the judge ruling a man dead despite his appearing in court to contest to decision.

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2013/10/10/jud...

Re:Faking your death by tehwalrus on Friday September 16, 2016 @12:55PM (#12515379)
To misquote Babbage, "I cannot comprehend the confusion of mind that would bring someone to such a decision" .....

edit: oh. The guy went to court to specifically undo a ruling that was over 10 years old, that would have caused his ex-wife to owe the government a lot of "unfairly claimed" benefits. I'm less confused now.

Re:Faking your death by TeMPOraL on Friday September 16, 2016 @02:31PM (#12516188)
A good rule of thumb is: if you ever see something in the media that cannot possibly be true, it really isn't true - it's just the media doing above-average fact twisting on the story.
Re:Faking your death by Bartweiss on Friday September 16, 2016 @04:03PM (#12516913)
It literally is true, though. As I said, and the paper reported: the guy was ruled dead, came before a judge and asked for the judgement to be revoked, and the judge told him "I don’t know where that leaves you, but you’re still deceased as far as the law is concerned".

The issue here was that the guy had disappeared for a long time, and been declared dead in full accordance with the law. That specific law didn't have a clause to help reverse wrongful declarations of death, so the judge had to let it stand.

The relevance of the ten year and back payments is mostly that it decreased sympathy for the guy, not that it changed the outcome.

Re:Faking your death by emodendroket on Friday September 16, 2016 @02:34PM (#12516217)
But it actually is true in this case.
Re:Faking your death by munchbunny on Friday September 16, 2016 @04:05PM (#12516930)
Even if actually true, the context explains the entire difference between what was said and what was expected.
Re:Faking your death by evincarofautumn on Friday September 16, 2016 @02:55PM (#12516396)
Reminds me of an experiment on ants that I once heard of. Put a drop of the pheromone produced by dead ants on a live worker, and watch as the others dutifully carry her to the trash pile, despite the fact that she keeps protesting and going back to work.
Re:Faking your death by gaius on Sunday September 18, 2016 @05:13AM (#12524530)
I hope they washed her off afterwards. Poor little ant :-(
Re:Faking your death by emodendroket on Friday September 16, 2016 @02:22PM (#12516096)
At least the solution was more straightforward for Ulysses.
Re:Faking your death by JorgeGT on Friday September 16, 2016 @03:26PM (#12516607)
Literally straightforward, through a dozen axe heads.
Re:Faking your death by eatkinson on Friday September 16, 2016 @11:52AM (#12514837)
Re:Faking your death by mysterypie on Friday September 16, 2016 @01:00PM (#12515425)
It would be helpful to give a relevant quote (as well as the link):

"[He was a French astronomer whose] ship was caught in a storm and dropped him off at Île Bourbon (Réunion), where he had to wait until a Spanish ship took him home. He finally arrived in Paris in October 1771, having been away for eleven years, only to find that he had been declared legally dead and been replaced in the Royal Academy of Sciences. His wife had remarried, and all his relatives had 'enthusiastically plundered his estate'. Lengthy litigation and the intervention of the king were ultimately required before things were normalized. He got back his seat in the academy, remarried, and lived apparently happily for another 21 years."

Re:Faking your death by nommm-nommm on Friday September 16, 2016 @02:19PM (#12516074)
Pretty reasonable to believe he was dead. Plundered is the wrong word, if you are gone for 11 years.
Re:Faking your death by tempestn on Saturday September 17, 2016 @03:02AM (#12519493)
It could be a reasonable word choice depending on what they did with the estate. Legally the new owners would be free to do whatever they like, but you could see how some things would be considered more respectful than others.
Re:Faking your death by Someone on Friday September 16, 2016 @01:08PM (#12515495)
There's also a form of fraud where one reports one's own dead if a parent dies. Advantage is that keeping the parent 'alive', pension payments continue.

Rumor has it that some of the claims of "world's oldest person" actually are due to this form of fraud.

Re:Faking your death by emodendroket on Friday September 16, 2016 @02:34PM (#12516216)
Re:Faking your death by scandox on Friday September 16, 2016 @12:03PM (#12514951)
"Computers don't argue" by Gordon R. Dickson: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computers_Don%27t_Argue

"Nobody Starves" by Ron Goulart

There's another absolute classic in this line, about a punchcard error that leaves a man officially dead...but I can't quite recall its name.

Re:Faking your death by cokernel on Friday September 16, 2016 @04:34PM (#12517141)
> punchcard error that leaves a man officially dead

This sounds similar to the Terry Gilliam film _Brazil_.

"When a fly gets jammed in a printer and results in the incarceration and accidental death during interrogation of cobbler Archibald Buttle – instead of renegade air conditioning specialist and suspected terrorist Archibald Tuttle – Sam is assigned the task of rectifying the error."

Quoting from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_(1985_film)

Re:Faking your death by rosser on Friday September 16, 2016 @03:36PM (#12516672)
Not just there, though I'm sure it's horrendously painful to navigate as officious a bureaucracy as India's can be. A friend in Kansas has two — very much alive — special needs children, one of whom, he was informed in a very brusque letter from the state agency that helps them out, had died, and that benefits would therefore cease forthwith.

It took weeks to sort that out.

Re:Faking your death by waynecochran on Friday September 16, 2016 @02:42PM (#12516280)
Reminds me of the MASH episode "The Late Captain Pierce":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Late_Captain_Pierce

Re:Faking your death by nommm-nommm on Friday September 16, 2016 @01:17PM (#12515576)
Problem in the US too, "Being Declared Dead By The Social Security Administration Is Very Inconvenient... the Social Security Administration accidentally declares about 9,000 people living in the United States dead every year."

https://consumerist.com/2015/05/04/being-declared-dead-by-th...