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Re:What If Urban Sprawl Is the Only Realistic Way to Create ... by honkhonkpants on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @03:19PM (#12500353)
Philadelphia. Madison.

HTH.

Re:What If Urban Sprawl Is the Only Realistic Way to Create ... by niftich on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @03:34PM (#12500465)
The areas of Philadelphia that are built in this style can hardly be called a 'safe environment', unfortunately [1].

Madison, however, on first blush seems like an excellent example, in that it's a large (~250k) city ranked highly on most metrics, and has a mid-rise downtown. But a look at a satellite image reveals that the city limits of Madison contain large areas of single-family detached houses, and mid- and high-rises are restricted to the Isthmus and areas immediately surrounding the University [2].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philadelphia#Crime

[2] https://www.google.com/maps/place/Madison,+WI/@43.0850975,-8...

Re:What If Urban Sprawl Is the Only Realistic Way to Create ... by joesmo on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @04:43PM (#12501051)
"The areas of Philadelphia that are built in this style can hardly be called a 'safe environment', unfortunately"

Center city is pretty safe. So is South Street. Old City. Plenty of other neighborhoods too numerous to mention with this style of buildings. Yes, crime is relatively high in the city, but it's concentrated in certain areas (see: http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/Philadelphia-Pennsylvania/...). There's a reason the Badlands is called the Badlands and Center City isn't. Judging the whole city to be unsafe by its overall crime stats is ridiculous, unfair, and misleading.

Re:What If Urban Sprawl Is the Only Realistic Way to Create ... by honkhonkpants on Wednesday September 14, 2016 @03:43PM (#12500570)
Madison is interesting because it limits height to no higher than the Capitol dome, which isn't particularly high, but also allows a pretty high density by right in most neighborhoods. You could buy a property in Madison and put a three-flat dwelling on it with minimal red tape. If you tried that in SF you'd be dead before all the permitting went through.